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To: Neocon who wrote (21067)	8/9/2001 9:05:55 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

otherwise fine person Otherwise fine person? Otherwise? What exactly is it about a distaste for invocations that detracts from one's fineness? You can work on that while I work on a response to your question. Karen

To: Neocon who wrote (21067)	8/9/2001 11:00:57 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

, why have an animus against calling upon a Higher Power to help one faithfully discharge one's duties? I don't have any animus against that. When I see people with their hands folded and their heads bowed, I find it quite charming. Particularly when their lips move. <g> I don't know what words or images they are using as they communicate with their deity. They may be asking to win the lottery or that all the world's lawyers be smitten. It's none of my business and I don't want to know. I appreciate and respect what they are doing. Now, if a legislative body wants to have a chaplain give an invocation "calling upon a Higher Power to help one faithfully discharge one's duties," especially since it's traditional, I don't have any animus about that, either. I expect the chaplain to say something like "Let us all take a moment to look to our HP, or even "the Lord," to help us to faithfully and wisely ...during our deliberations today." And maybe go on to say something about listening to each other with an open mind and heart..." A little inspiration at the beginning of a meeting is a good thing. A reminder to play nicely together, a call to statesmanship, or some such. As long as what they say is focused on why they're there, is generic with regard to religious sect, and dignified, I have no animus, strong or otherwise. Recent experience has taught me to expect the invocation to go on into the kind of expression that Rambi was talking about, so my teeth are usually on edge in anticipation. Ordinary empathy ought to make one more indulgent about seeking help from a Higher Power......... I'm prepared to be indulgent. I'm not prepared to be expected to be enthusiastic or to participate, or to suffer rudeness or disrespect. Karen