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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Poet who wrote (21454)8/10/2001 11:15:17 PM
From: coug  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
Hi Poet,

While this cad, (edit hehe, not really, just sounded fun) was having a glass of Cab, I read with much interest, in the August 13, 01, issue of "The New Yorker" an article, in the "The Art World Section" , called "Desert Songs" , (page 82). about an exhibit in Santa Fe, NM called "Beau Monde".. To quote:

"The curator of "Beau Monde" is the maverick art critic, theorist, and fiction writer Dave Hickey, who teaches at the the University of Nevada in Las Vegas. Hickey, who is Sixty-two years old has been an art dealer, a magazine editor......."

Going on, the article states,, "A romantic individualist and a philosophical pragmatist, Hickey espouses the oneness of all art whether high or popular, a field with room for both a Tiepolo and a Norman Rockwell"...

And finishing the article, a quote from Peter Schjeldal, the author, "Before we can usefully disagree about what we like in art, we need to reestablish, publicly, the dignity of liking. The importance of pleasure in aesthetic experience is so simple and self-evident."

It says it all IMO..

m



To: Poet who wrote (21454)8/11/2001 12:50:23 AM
From: The Philosopher  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 82486
 
I assume, then, that you are fully in favor of plural marriages. If two people of the same sex can marry, then there is no logical reason why three, or four, of the same or different sexes can't marry. So any group of people should be able to marry in whatever combination suits them.

Right?



To: Poet who wrote (21454)8/11/2001 5:59:35 AM
From: Neocon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
I understand, but consider: if the sexual orientation were pedophilia, would it be just to penalize it? Of course it would, due to palpable harm. Now, even granting the comparative harmless of homosexuality, there is a social- impact issue, or rather several issues. For one thing, at a time when the origins of homosexuality are still in dispute, it jumps the gun in saying that it is a fixed condition, and therefore lowers the standards according to which claims that one couldn't help oneself may be forwarded. Thus, it weakens sexual mores that are already pretty weak. For another, the declaration of war on the religious would make todays politics look like a picnic........



To: Poet who wrote (21454)8/12/2001 10:18:41 AM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
I think gay civil marriage is half a loaf. It seems unjust to penalize people in any way for sexual orientation.

Poet, are you pitching simply same-sex marriages or are you advocating full coverage for gays under the Civil Rights Act including such things as affirmative action in hiring and a cut of government contract set-asides? I can't tell from your recent posts.

Karen