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To: epicure who wrote (415)8/19/2001 8:47:54 AM
From: Poet  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 51759
 
We're now number three on the Hot List. And here we are talking about movies, books and our kids. I wonder how many people "get it" that those who are pro-choice are decent human beings with families (of real live children!) and interests.



To: epicure who wrote (415)8/19/2001 7:47:49 PM
From: epicure  Respond to of 51759
 
Something to try for:

Anguttara Nikaya IV.73

Sappurisa Sutta

A Person of Integrity

For free distribution only, as a gift of Dhamma

Context of this sutta

"Monks, a person endowed with these four qualities can be known as 'a person of no integrity.' Which four?

"There is the case where a person of no integrity, when unasked, reveals another person's bad points, to say nothing of when asked. Furthermore, when asked,
when pressed with questions, he is one who speaks of another person's bad points in full & in detail, without omission, without holding back. Of this person you may
know, 'This venerable one is a person of no integrity.'

"Then again, a person of no integrity, when asked, does not reveal another person's good points, to say nothing of when unasked. Furthermore, when asked, when
pressed with questions, he is one who speaks of another person's good points not in full, not in detail, with omissions, holding back. Of this person you may know,
'This venerable one is a person of no integrity.'

"Then again, a person of no integrity, when asked, does not reveal his own bad points, to say nothing of when unasked. Furthermore, when asked, when pressed
with questions, he is one who speaks of his own bad points not in full, not in detail, with omissions, holding back. Of this person you may know, 'This venerable one
is a person of no integrity.'

"Then again, a person of no integrity, when unasked, reveals his own good points, to say nothing of when asked. Furthermore, when asked, when pressed with
questions, he is one who speaks of his own good points in full & in detail, without omissions, without holding back. Of this person you may know, 'This venerable
one is a person of no integrity.'

"Monks, a person endowed with these four qualities can be known as 'a person of no integrity.'

"Now, a person endowed with these four qualities can be known as 'a person of integrity.' Which four?

"There is the case where a person of integrity, when asked, does not reveal another person's bad points, to say nothing of when unasked. Furthermore, when asked,
when pressed with questions, he is one who speaks of another person's bad points not in full, not in detail, with omissions, holding back. Of this person you may
know, 'This venerable one is a person of integrity.'

"Then again, a person of integrity, when unasked, reveals another person's good points, to say nothing of when asked. Furthermore, when asked, when pressed with
questions, he is one who speaks of another person's good points in full & in detail, without omissions, without holding back. Of this person you may know, 'This
venerable one is a person of integrity.'

"Then again, a person of integrity, when unasked, reveals his own bad points, to say nothing of when asked. Furthermore, when asked, when pressed with questions,
he is one who speaks of his own bad points in full & in detail, without omissions, without holding back. Of this person you may know, 'This venerable one is a
person of integrity.'

"Then again, a person of integrity, when asked, does not reveal his own good points, to say nothing of when unasked. Furthermore, when asked, when pressed with
questions, he is one who speaks of his own good points not in full, not in detail, with omissions, holding back. Of this person you may know, 'This venerable one is a
person of integrity.'

"Monks, a person endowed with these four qualities can be known as 'a person of integrity.'"