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To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (7421)	8/19/2001 10:46:08 PM
From: Step1	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

Hi CB, Kastel and others, on the dishwasher topic here, not wanting to make it into a debate, but nevertheless something to remember as it applies to other appliances and processes as well. You have to consider the total cost, and that includes the cost of getting the raw materials, manufacturing, transportation, installation, and eventually recycling/disposal costs at the end of the life cycle of the appliance to really be able to tell if the dishwasher actually saves energy and is therefore environmentally friendly... On an operational basis, yes it may be more efficient, all things considered, maybe not. In the end the question you have to ask yourself is : Will it improve my quality of life? Not always as easy to answer as it seems ... ( I guess you can tell now that i am not an impulsive shopper ... So i run smack against Maurice with his " burn hydrocarbons and shop to save the world" ) All in good spirit Stephan

To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (7421)	8/19/2001 11:24:08 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

Aw, c'mon Kastel. I soak the dishes in the sink in hot soapy water, and then scrub the dishes and put them on the counter, and when they are all scrubbed clean, I rinse them in one swell foop and put them in a rack to dry. It can't take many gallons of water to rinse one sinkful of clean dishes. Not sure what 1,000 gallons of water costs, but it's pennies. I think it would take several lifetimes before I spent the $1K that Mq's dishwasher costs.