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To: limtex who wrote (103081)	8/21/2001 6:47:07 AM
From: Robert Scott Diver	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

<<OT>> Re <<Actually I am beginning to believe that we have another 36 months of this till Nov 04 and then and only then we will get a new administration that will produce a "New Deal" or the equivalent and take concerted action to reflate the World economy. GW imho finds all this business environment very "challenging" and as for the kind of action that is necessary to stop it well imho it is way past Crawford.>> In your response to my challenge of your last political rant, you indicated you actually liked GW. It seems to me that you were just trying to avoid responding to any of the points I raised. Again, let me raise the question of why you believe the Democrats would be doing more to end the Clinton recession. I can't think of anything they are likely to do that is good for business. Scott

To: limtex who wrote (103081)	8/21/2001 7:13:53 AM
From: Jeff Vayda	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

Limtex: all this put/call ratio info is a total joke. The only ratio that has any significance is how business is doing, whether orders have picked up etc. Until hat happens the stcoks will be useless as investment and people won't buy them. True words. But you need not be in the market as an 'investment', MM is clearly a 'trader' here and doing quite well. As a matter of fact, this is the best time for a trader, nice swings around a center. (wish I had the touch...) As for If Mr Greenspan and his pals at the Fed are willing to own up to the awful damage that their absurd obsession with the NAZ has caused and they take off the brakes then perhaps business will start to pick up. If they don't then business will get worse. At this stge you do not need to be a genius to work that out. I think it naive to look at one item in this very complex world and think that it is the driving factor. There is simply too many inter relationships to have one stand out as the primary catalyst each and every time. Yes, AG put some water on the fire - look what happened. Had the bubble not burst, we could have well had a conflagration. Finally, Actually I am beginning to believe that we have another 36 months of this till Nov 04 and then and only then we will get a new administration that will produce a "New Deal" or the equivalent and take concerted action to reflate the World economy. Those "New Deal" days are over, America neither has the will nor ability to spend the world right. There are cycles in the economy. Accept that and you might be able to sleep better. (and maybe even profit from your 'investments'.) Jeff Vayda

To: limtex who wrote (103081)	8/21/2001 11:15:27 AM
From: Jim Willie CB	Respond to of 152472

LimmerMan, put/call VIX is an excellent indicator if you have such a dire view, then wait until VIX gets to a low range, then short the piss out of QQQ and SPX the low VIX speaks of complacency and tells you to short the higher VIX now is not all that high but it tells you to cover those shorts business sucks and is getting worse I expect to see a mass of horrendous warnings next month it should challenge those habitual "seen the worst" goombas they and the Europeans should be throwing in towels soon ok, so you are not a trader neither am I but I am pondering a short index position after any feeble rally of a few days duration you might want to look into taking a pill / jim