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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lane3 who wrote (24132)	8/22/2001 9:54:21 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

Here is your original charge: "You identify a category of people who live by principle and morals. I'll just call them the PM people, or PMP for short. Presumably, they are in contrast to some other category of people. Perhaps you might start with giving that second category a label. I'll just call them other people (OP) for now. Then, if you would, please define what exactly you mean by the two groups of people. You added the faith based/traditional values designation late in the day and now are pressing it quite hard. Do we need to start over or do you want to go with the original?

To: Lane3 who wrote (24132)	8/22/2001 9:59:21 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

"He obviously have a distaste for OPs, Obvious to whom. You have no basis on which to make such a declaration. I infact refused to give either you or Neocon descriptors of what would categorize some one as an OP except that they would not be a PM. I also explained to Neocon that it simply seemed unreasonable to do so.

To: Lane3 who wrote (24132)	8/22/2001 9:59:32 PM
From: jlallen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

I didn't see that in your original specification of what a PMP was. I, too, think that there are many things more important in the world than me. Maybe that makes me a PMP. Does it? Is that number five on your list of criteria or does it subsume the other four. You missed this part: that these concepts do not vary that much and are not unique to individuals, in essence that these are issues which must be resolved by a reference to factors larger than ourselves as individuals. and this too....the type of people who are inclined to see things in the world as more in black and white tones, that in life, there are certain boundaries or lines which should not be crossed for the good of family or friends or all on the planet I made a point of saying faith-based or traditional values to be sure not to leave you out since you're obviously in the PMP category. You assume to much. Many of my values are not "traditional" in the sense you seem to indicate. I'm sorry to hear that. How can I fix it? That's a bit more disturbing to be truthful. If that is how you really felt there would be nothing to fix nor should you be ashamed of it. Its like asking me to apologize for treating some of the morons that inhabit these threads without tact. It would not be honest. I value honesty over "tact". JLA