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To: Ilaine who wrote (8033)	8/31/2001 10:47:00 AM
From: LLCF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

<In the United States, lawyers, like every other learned profession, use a specialized language when communicating with each other, where each specialized word represents a complex concept which they understand, but ignorant laymen may not. > Oh my: 'ignorant laymen may not'... tsk tsk.... nor Albert Einstein or the Dahli Lama I might add..... <In the United States, engineers do not achieve their objectives using language. They are doers, builders, makers, planners, designers, and don't tend to be talkers, except with each other, where they use a specialized language that they understand. > Thought transcends words.... give me the enlightend engineer! -ggg- DAK

To: Ilaine who wrote (8033)	8/31/2001 11:21:39 AM
From: Oblomov	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

>>where each specialized word represents a complex concept which they understand, but ignorant laymen may not 1) This is the weakness of thinking in terms proscribed by jargon. Words are mere representations. Jargon is not necessarily a more precise representation of reality, but those who use it without question believe that it is. 2) Understanding a concept and being facile with a concept are two different things. I have known many people who could successfully utilize a concept via jargon, but who did not understand what they were talking about. 3) There is also a difference between being ignorant and being uninitiated. Because someone does not utilize correct jargon, does that mean that he/she is devoid of knowledge (ignorant) on the subject? The use of jargon is a demonstration of professed knowledge. It is a cue that signals to the initiated that the speaker is also initiated. It is not the same as knowledge, and it is often a substitute for true knowledge.

To: Ilaine who wrote (8033)	9/1/2001 3:16:26 AM
From: Snowshoe	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

Whereas many legal and quasi-legal documents use sentences that are far too long and lengthy, making it almost and virtually impossible to follow the train of thought or sequence of meaning of said documents; and whereas the English literature and writing profession has standard comprehension and understanding tests that prove that said documents exceed the average reading ability of a person or persons with three college degrees, membership in MENSA, or both severally and jointly; it is hereby suggested, recommended, and demanded that lawyers write simpler!