To: Lane3 who wrote (1385 ) 9/2/2001 1:08:50 AM From: Rambi Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 51728 I think you're trying to take what I said too far beyond of the area I originally was addressing- which began with a list of the characteristics I value in people, one of which was tolerance. Po and X then said they were unable to tolerate bigots, or people who tried to destroy your ideas. And I said that I thought that would be taking tolerance to an extreme, that when something invaded one's moral "space" (for lack of a better word, I just threw that one out), there was not some sort of tolerance imperative that meant you had to accept anything and everything. I didn't see tolerance as unconditional or all-inclusive. Then COs said tolerance was a passive process(although in a later post to you he says it implies action or reaction, so maybe I am misunderstanding what he originally said, which wouldn't surprise me at all; I don't know HOW you all keep everything straight doing this) and I said I didn't think it was. That if we just passively tolerate anything, it isn't tolerance any longer-- it has become indifference. ANd by indifference I meant the negative type -apathy, a not caring that someone was destroying ideas, or being a bigot, or whatever else those things were Po and X were saying they couldn't tolerate, not indifference because of not being aware. So I would agree with Cos when he later says that we have to work at tolerance. And I would agree with what you said about the different forms of indifference, but it wasn't really related to what I had originally been trying to say. Which was that I value tolerance in people, as I do your in wading through this convoluted post.