To: Snowshoe who wrote (117 ) 9/3/2001 9:26:36 PM From: marcos Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1293 'Pinchot was convinced that Taft sided with "every predatory interest seeking to gobble up natural resources or otherwise oppress the people." He had become the "accomplice and the refuge of land grabbers, water-power grabbers, grabbers of timber and oil--all the swarm of big and little thieves and near-thieves" who sought to steal resources that "should have been conserved in the public interest." This interest must remain paramount, Pinchot concluded: that was the only way to make "the people strong and well, able and wise" and to build a nation "with equal opportunity for all and special privilege for none" (Pinchot, 1998, p. 510). 'pinchot.org Plus ca change, eh ... i tripped over that while looking for something on Bernhard Fernow, the prussian who was the first trained forester on this continent, and who together with Gifford Pinchot the newyorker had great influence on both sides of the line in the early days .... here's a fair bit on BF on the BC RPFs' site - rpf-bc.org From the north coast of BC to the south of Oregon is all one biogeoclimatic zone more or less, there are so many similarities, it is the differences that stick out - 1. BC gets developed a little later, after the initial Cariboo gold rush it takes some time for settlers to filter in, even after the railroad and joining the confederation, this is largely due to more difficult terrain, marine transport still being the only way to get to much of it ... also, not much agricultural land on the coast, most is suited only to forestry and few export markets exist at this time 2. 'BC' stands for 'British Columbia' ... we were quite british then, with british colonial politics and british attitudes towards selling off the land for cheap just so somebody could become a timber baron and put together a bag of money to take back east .... there were a couple of lamentably wild and corrupt periods of issuing various sorts of cutting licenses, but ninety plus per cent of the land remains still in the hand of the crown ... it is on this point that we are envied and sniped at, well within the province there are distinct schools of thought on this too, but this is no excuse for foreigners to start either the thin or thick end of their wedge du jour, this is our province and we'll run it as we damn well decide together to please, period There have been huge changes in my time, absolutely huge ... i remember when 'close-U' came in, the rule that anything over a six-inch top sixteen feet or longer had to be brought in [where before it may have been ignored and burnt with the slash] ... this was ostensibly to make better use of the total resource, but we knew better - it was to guarantee the puppetmasters of the guvmint du jour cheap furnish for their pulp mills, at our expense [often total transport costs exceed the sale price of pulp logs] I knew a man who used to tell stories of growing up on the central Island in the teens and twenties, how as a teenager he was encouraged to use his spare time to go out into the back fourty and cut something down and burn it - there was so much timber that clearings were prized, the women didn't like the dark [this was a big factor, a man had a hard time attracting a wife before he had levelled a few hundred feet to the south of the house ... well 'levelled' is not the word, there remained smoking stumps up to springboard height of six feet or so, but at least the sun got to the ground and you could plant pasture grass between them] ... nothing but the best of timber was saleable as logs - during much of this time the mills' specs for merch timber were basically 'from above the least suspicion of butt swell up to the first branch', this left over half the volume of even the best trees to rot on the ground, get burned in the homestead clearings, maybe a few cords of the easiest to split for kitchen stovewood .... there was sooo much wood, and it was in the way of civilisation ... and that's only threescore and ten from our date