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Politics : Right Wing Extremist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: TimF who wrote (15658)	9/4/2001 6:43:17 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 59480

The action is to take by force or threat of force. Tim, laws are enforceable by force or threat of force. That's why they call it en-force-ment. I'll bet you don't have a problem when the cops use force or threat of force to rescue someone from being raped. Or to cuff and carry off the perp. Because you approve of that law. If the law is legit, then the authorities use force if necessary to assure compliance. It doesn't matter if you or I approve of the law or not. We get input into whether or not a law is desirable through our representatives during the legislative process, not the enforcement process. At the enforcement end, the use of force is not related to whether or not it's a wise law. Karen

To: TimF who wrote (15658)	9/5/2001 7:09:18 AM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 59480

Well, we can hone the difference a little better, anyway. You seem to think that the aspect of force automatically taints it. I think that the issue is whether it is owed or not. Force, whether to enforce or punish, can be excessive, of course, but laying that aside, the matter is one of justice: is there an enforceable obligation? I say that the government is duly constituted to define enforceable obligations, or, from another angle, punishable infractions, i.c. laws. As long as it is legitimate that government promulgate laws, force per se is not invalidating.