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To: Abner Hosmer who wrote (76134)9/12/2001 3:26:42 AM
From: paul ross  Respond to of 116753
 
Eerie post on Yahoo some 12 hours before the disaster:

messages.yahoo.com



To: Abner Hosmer who wrote (76134)9/12/2001 3:37:35 AM
From: Davy Crockett  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116753
 
Right on Tom.

Well said.

Regards,
Peter



To: Abner Hosmer who wrote (76134)9/12/2001 8:46:59 AM
From: IngotWeTrust  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 116753
 
Tom sez:From this moment on we shall and should be defined and judged as individuals and as a nation by our loyalties and our actions, or by our lack of them. Let others be judged, likewise.

Tom, my concern is this: that in the inevitable "bargaining phase of our collective grief matriculation" the Canadian Asshole, Richnorth, and the American asshole Islamic apologist George Cole, in particular but NOT exclusively relegated to them, appearing hereupon this forum with their "in our face yellow-bellied pro-Islamic bilge" that they should be excused, apologized for, or forgotten for their cowardice and colors they showed hereupon GPM in the last few hours.

Their "freedom of speech" ENDS at the Twin Towers NOSE of the WTC, PENTAGON Nose, and the Pennsylvania Hills Nose.

I won't let them forget and that is a friggin' promise, Tom. I don't give a shit about what is "politically correct." Islamic sympathizers need to wear the hated yellow armbands so we can take care of this matter, swiftly and effectively. especially those easily within reach of the sound of my voice both in 'Western Canada" and in the Eastern Seaboard of this great land.

You should appreciate this particular surreal forwarding from a former "member" of this community now reaping the well-earned ostracism of this thread and the SI forum, so much so that he, Peter Grandich, can't bring himself to even use his real name on the entire of Silicon Investor from his reported hiding hole [next to BreX's Felderhoff] in the Caymans. Grab your barf-bag, this carries the stench of the buried alive in NY and in Virginia. OH, and before you have to flip to the end of the book/prayer and find out who is responsible for yesterday, I'll tell you "who" ole "saint peter" is blaming....AYUP...GOD!

From The Desk Of Peter Grandich Tuesday September 10, 2001 11:45 AM EST

The tragedy unfolding today will inevitably lead to the one question about God that has never been answered- why do good suffer?

We are told that The Bible has all the answers. It’s hard to imagine that a loving God could allow such a tragedy, but one doesn’t have to go past the book of Job to find the answer to the question so many Americans will ask today-Why?

Job’s innocence is established beyond any doubt and we see who is responsible for Job’s misfortune. It is God who permits the righteous man to suffer in order to test the quality of his integrity. We may ask why such an enormous tragedy such as today, must take place? Can’t God get his message across without so much lost of
life? Like Job, we will never know why God permits this. What we do know from Job is that a theological debate took place but it ended up being useless as we learn only God can resolve this.

Our shock will soon turn to anger. How we manage this anger will be our test. We will soon feel the helplessness we all have and only God can deliver us from this fallen world.

God tells us he always hears our prayers. Let us all devote the coming hours and days to prayers for those who died, those who were injured and for America, the greatest country in the world, to come together in the spirit of God that built this great nation.

XXXX XXXX XXX'X and its members, including Bill Wegner and myself, are available for prayer and will comfort anyone who asks. Email us at either pgrandich@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.com..xx or xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx.net.

Pray this prayer with me now;

Heavenly Father, we are in shock and dismay from the events unfolding today. We will not begin to comprehend how a Sovereign God, who knows the past, Present and future, could permit such evil to take place. Teach us in this period Of anger, pain and dismay, how to understand your words that all things will End up benefiting your name. We ask that you blessed those who lost family and Friends. Father, we believe the United States of America was built on the belief Of your existence and desires to carry out all what you have taught through the
Prophets.

We ask this in your Holy Name, Amen


Is this disgraced money manager and shameless stock promoter a piece of work or what? I can't believe my prayers are collected in the same "heavenly stew pot" as the likes of that former American now hiding on foreign soil. The stupidity of "blaming God" for yesterday, and then "inviting us to pray to that self-same God" is beyond this feeble mind's ability to "connect" the dots. Is this guy unreal or what?



To: Abner Hosmer who wrote (76134)9/12/2001 9:38:58 AM
From: IngotWeTrust  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 116753
 
Have you noticed, Tom, how the list of "one side of the fence" is growing longer by the minute, both within and without our borders?

Richnorth tops it:
Nosmoking
Fat Cat, Islamic sympathezers represented by George Cole
chinton
Joel Gander
Peter Grandich
Pacifists represented by Mazzarella
.............................. <-----saved for the next goldbug with yellow-brass cajones
and it will continue to grow as the golden rock is lifted and the sowbugs crawl out from under in the hours, days and weeks ahead on this thread.

What fun my quiet associate, Lawrence Hooper, registered psychologist and fellow threader must be having with the observations of the various lab rats' behavious contained in this gold cacophonous thread. Enough material for writing a book, Lawrence, from our various "public journalings of grief" hereupon???



To: Abner Hosmer who wrote (76134)9/12/2001 10:51:22 AM
From: J.E.Currie  Respond to of 116753
 
Abner,
Thank you for your wise and thoughtful statements.

"They're are those even amongst us who have been brought up and bred to shit on the soil of their homeland"

"From this moment on we shall and should be defined and judged as individuals and as a nation by our loyalties and our actions, or by our lack of them"

"A vicious assault has been perpetrated upon our people, our commerce, our culture, and our way of life. "

"The gauntlet has been thrown down and now the World will test the mettle of We the American People. We are prepared."

I'm ready to reup. Hope the "Screamin Eagles" will still have me.
jec



To: Abner Hosmer who wrote (76134)9/12/2001 12:20:23 PM
From: Richnorth  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116753
 
How naive! How superficial!

I was critical and angry because so many lives were needlessly lost simply because the powers that be have been so smug and self-complacent. In case you didn't know, I do sympathize with the folks that have lost loved ones. As for those that perished, my personal belief is that they probably have gone to a happy place far from the madding crowds, far from the rat race, the daily cares and chores of living and frustrations and even mortal strifes.

And you descended into your "wormy" tirade.

How self-righteous and how presumptuous can you get and smug, too! I suppose as an hallowed American you are at liberty to pass judgement on others and/or ride roughshod over them as you please and with impunity as Uncle Sam has been doing for years? Some God-given privilege, eh?

Let's face it: most of the people on this continent have been called "foreigners", "cowards" and "worms" and even worse things by the likes of you at one time or another. Hey, since when did you and/or your kinfolk cease being foreigners and cowards and straddling worms on the fence? I suppose you have been a patriot from the morning of time?

You certainly have a most wonderful sense of humour, Tom.

"Judge not, lest ye be judged," so sayeth the Lord.

=========================================================

PS. BTW, worms have their uses. For example, they help turn the soil for the farmers' benefit to the benefit of so many others, too.



To: Abner Hosmer who wrote (76134)9/24/2002 6:31:55 PM
From: Davy Crockett  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 116753
 
Hi Tom,

Your post still stands in spite of the test of time...

Message 16336595

Your friend always,
Peter