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Politics : Right Wing Extremist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Tom Clarke who wrote (16646)	9/14/2001 9:37:43 AM
From: Bilow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 59480

Hi Charleymane; My memory of the Tripolitan war is hazy, (and getting hazier) but I seem to recall that only Algiers actually declared "war" on us. What they did was provide for open season on our shipping through letters of marque, which is technically different. (And similar to the "war" we fought against France in 1898.) In any case, we didn't reciprocate with a declaration, so the Tripolitan conflict, for us, was another undeclared war. In addition, the enemy had no united command. Instead, we were up against something like 3 or more independent rulers of tiny little city - states. We had paid millions of dollars in tribute before the thing finally boiled over the Tripolitan War ended it. After the War of 1812, we had so much naval power left over (or being constructed), that rather than continuing paying tribute we went over and actually extracted some damages from them, one at a time. They never bothered us again. (Okay, for the next 150 years anyway.) Here's a good link: usni.org Here's a link with a list of the 5 declared wars that the United States has fought in: #reply-16342624 The author is a military officer and his thesis was that formal declarations of war are obsolete. -- Carl

To: Tom Clarke who wrote (16646)	9/14/2001 10:37:32 AM
From: Raymond Clutts	Respond to of 59480

If my recollection is correct that incident also spurred the saying, "Millions for defense but not one cent for tribute." Another apt expression of American values that remain at the core of our national identity today.

To: Tom Clarke who wrote (16646)	9/14/2001 10:51:20 AM
From: Raymond Clutts	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 59480

In my estimate both Pakistan and Iraq's national governments are complicit in these events and both must therefore suffer all the rationale consequences that will follow from America's decision to assert its own interests in self defense. Both nations must be deprived of any program that would yield weapons of mass destruction and both governments must be replaced with others more willing to accommodate American security interests. Its likely that this will test the limits of forbearance from the People's Republic of China and will accelerate a permanent American strategic alliance with India but so be it.