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To: dave rose who wrote (76501)	9/14/2001 8:03:33 PM
From: lorne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116752

Metals: Gold, Palladium Group Saturday, September 15, 2001 China raises gold prices .......BEIJING : China's central bank raised its buying and selling prices for gold on Friday in a special move outside of the regular weekly fix. The hike follows a sharp rise in international gold prices following the terror attacks on the United States on Tuesday. A central bank official declined to comment on the move. China typically sets gold prices at a weekly fix on Monday. .......The bank's website www.pbc.gov.cn gave the following results of the hike. The previous prices are in brackets. .......For gold of 99.99 pct purity: .......Purchase price - 73.15 yuan per gram (71.82) .......Selling price - 74.87 yuan per gram (73.25) .......For gold of 99.95 pct purity: .......Purchase price - 72.65 yuan per gram (71.32) .......Selling price - 74.37 yuan per gram (72.75)-Reuters brecorder.com

To: dave rose who wrote (76501)	9/14/2001 8:34:40 PM
From: E. Charters	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116752

I will not discuss the tit for tat of tactics that would defend against all possible attacks. IT may not be possible to actually thwart all attacks. That is what war has taught for time immemorial. Response has to be well co-ordinated. Regardless of the threat, pilots cannot open the cockpit door. Covert marshals are one part of the plan. There must be others and they must be secret. The visible marshals are necessary too as they must take them out and this allows the others to concentrate. It is a sad fact that the only thing finally that will end all attacks emanating from these countries is to go to war. We must weaken their resolve utterly if the countries that harbour these people do not co-operate utterly to quell what is in their midst. If they do not quell it they support it. If they don't mind, we will quell it for them. Part of all human conflict resolution must be a final will to co-operate once things have been peacefully balanced. Without that annihilation becomes necessary. We must look to history to see what people will do. The arabs even under the threat of Ghengis Khan preferred to negotiate and buy off the threat instead of fighting. But they have spread their religion by the sword since Mohammed. They are expansionist. the US has always struck out against attack and gone to war around the world. If they perceive a threat they are slow to go to war but mobilize completely and proceed to ultimate conclusion. Their logistic usage is supreme in the world and that ultimately is what wins wars. In every case the British have occupied the nations that found their freedon from them reject them and become somewhat hostile. In the states case they are still friends with Japan and Germany. The occupied to change poliitics and succeeded. The British occupied to build empire and failed to win friends. We may have to conquer and occupy parts of the middle east to end threats from there. How much is a fearsome thing to contemplate. The point that Yemen, Afghanistan and Iraq have to face is that no matter how they wash their hands of responsibility publically they are the abetting breeding ground for these people. They believe that this kind of ghostly guerilla attack cannot result in war because the roots are too widespread. This is not the case. It may end up in a widespread war that will not end for some time to come. They have to resolve in their minds what they risk and what they gain from this activity. Bascially they are polarizing the whole east against the West by their actions. There can be no middle ground. We are no better in our policies but we have no choice. We should have invaded Iraq and ended this cycle. Then the other nations would have listened. We did not go far enough. We have to get tough now. We have no choice. EC<:-}

To: dave rose who wrote (76501)	9/14/2001 9:42:12 PM
From: Little Joe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116752

hey - why not give everyone a gun. Little joe

To: dave rose who wrote (76501)	9/14/2001 9:47:39 PM
From: Knighty Tin	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 116752

Dave, any ammo would be unacceptable, as most bullets would make holes in the side of pressurized planes. But allow anyone who wishes to carry an empty gun to buy either Glaser Safety Slugs or Magsafe rounds, both of which are extremely effective people stoppers but poor penetrators of metal. BTW, flight attendants would have to be specially trained not to shoot tipsy passengers who hit on them. I would like to make it through a regular flight with nothing more than a slap or a threat to call authorities when we land. <g>