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To: Win Smith who wrote (2347)	9/15/2001 12:57:44 PM
From: Poet	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 51710

That's an amazing article, Win. Thanks for posting. I hope you and Bonnie have your helmets and flak jackets on. ;)

To: Win Smith who wrote (2347)	9/15/2001 1:09:27 PM
From: bonnuss_in_austin	Respond to of 51710

Geez, WinSmith ... I feel ignorant. I AM ignorant. Was going to say I don't know why, but I do know why. Devoted energies to capitalist career ambitions to live out the successful 'American' dream. I haven't read like you have. For the past 20 years. I focused on improving my knowledge about U.S. corporate/manufacturing ... business. High technology, specifically. Because I made a living in it. What a pitiful excuse. Not that I offer it as one. No f*cking wonder much of the OUS third world community resents/envies us. The opportunities we have here. Sigh. Again. I'm doing a lot of sighing this week. I just ran across this about the current situation: The Washington Post Saturday, September 15, 2001 THIS COUNTRY spends tens of billions of dollars a year on intelligence activity. The Justice Department, in addition, spends $23 billion to enforce the law. Given the size and technical capabilities of these agencies, how could they not have had even an inkling of the attacks that took place this week? The scattered details that have emerged about the plot put this failure in stark relief: More than 50 people were likely involved, Justice Department officials have said, and the plot required extensive communications and planning to pull off. The group's size -- not to mention the complexity of its endeavor -- should have offered many opportunities for intelligence infiltration. Yet the conspirators proceeded unmolested. What is striking is how safe these people apparently felt, how unthreatened by law enforcement. Some of the terrorists were here for long periods. They left and entered the country unimpeded. Some were reportedly on the so-called "watch list," a government catalogue of people who ostensibly are not permitted to enter the country. Yet this apparently caused them no problems. The evening before the attack, some people reportedly boasted at a strip joint in Florida of the "bloodshed" America would suffer "tomorrow." Since the attacks, law enforcement has been able quickly to tie many of the hijackers to terrorist groups. One, for example, came over from Hamburg, where German police say he regularly met with large groups of people planning spectacular attacks on American targets. The very speed with which such information has been gathered only begs the question of how much of it was knowable before. How could an act of such monstrous flamboyance not have been prevented? Already, people are suggesting that the proper response is to roll back civil liberties to allow greater monitoring of possible domestic threats. That is entirely premature. Freedom and openness are features that define us -- what we are fighting for when we fight terrorism. In the past, attacks like the Oklahoma City bombing provoked legislative responses that were essentially unrelated to the vulnerabilities that permitted the attacks in the first place. Many of the new capabilities went unused, and the vulnerabilities remained. It may be that the FBI and the CIA need more resources, or a reallocation of the funds they have. But before Congress moves to give the law enforcement and intelligence communities new powers or new funds, it should study how well they used the tools already at their disposal. © 2001 The Washington Post Company