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To: Seeker of Truth who wrote (5)	9/15/2001 9:54:56 PM
From: LLLefty	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

I would hate to see this potentially-useful thread ruined in arguments about the Israeli-Palestinian dispute. In my view, The question of Israel's right to exist is a very minor aspect of the overall objectives of Mr. Bin Laden and Islamic fundamentalists. Their enemy is modernity, freedom of thought and religious diversity. It has been sad to see Palestinians held hostage and used by their oil-rich Arab brothers for 52 years in squalid camps. It has been sad to see Mr. Arafat squander opportunity after opportunity to have his Palestinian state, the last being the Camp David negotiations. It has been sad to see children, fueled with hate, thrown into battle and it has been sad to see any voices of Palestinian dissent muffled. If Mr. Bersohn wishes to spread patently anti-Israel, anti-Zionist passions and positions, perhaps he should start a thread devoted to that single subject. After Tuesday's calumny, I think there are far more substantial foreign policy issues facing us than to engage in fruitless debate over Israel-Palestine.

To: Seeker of Truth who wrote (5)	9/15/2001 11:39:01 PM
From: David Alon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

One has to remember that the Palestinians living under Israeli rule are were much better off then under Arafat. Israel does not want to occupy them but simply wants to live in peace with all it's neighbors, but they can not accept that. Arafat turned down everything that was offered to him at Camp David and instead chose the path of war. Most people by now agree that a state has an obligation to defend itself from people trying to destroy it, do you not agree?

To: Seeker of Truth who wrote (5)	9/16/2001 11:21:40 AM
From: George Papadopoulos	Respond to of 281500

>If the U.S. is convinced by people like you that they should do nothing for Palestinian rights then the war against the despicable terrorists will never be won. First, thanks for starting this thread. That sentence of your post really says it all. Will try to participate more here but keeping up with SI is becoming extremely difficult due to the volume of posts and the need to resume normal life again. I have been posting in the American Under Siege thread but have been praying to the choir there due to complete lack of knowledge in foreign affairs most posters have displayed. George