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To: Clappy who wrote (5757)9/16/2001 10:55:56 AM
From: piscatologist  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 104155
 
EXCELLENT POST JOHN!

now i don't have to post my feelings cuz you just did.

clappy for president!

piscato



To: Clappy who wrote (5757)9/16/2001 12:23:45 PM
From: abuelita  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 104155
 
I would not mind debating this here with anyone.

- there's not much to debate clappy.
i think you've pretty much covered it.

slate.msn.com

the last two paragraphs of this article in case
you don't get that far:

The terror groups Americans are familiar with—Palestinian bombers and hijackers, IRA hard men—have desires we understand. They perform acts of terror in order to gain sympathy or sow fear. That sympathy or fear is a means to their end: political recognition, a state, compensation. They seek to participate in our world.

But Bin Laden and his followers are alarming because they don't want anything from us. They don't want our sympathy. They want no material thing we can offer them. They don't want to participate in the community of nations. (They don't really believe in the nation-state.) They are motivated by religion, not politics. They answer to no one but their god, so they certainly won't answer to us.



To: Clappy who wrote (5757)9/16/2001 10:02:36 PM
From: elpolvo  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 104155
 
clapperino-

i understand where you're coming from.

i don't know who did this act (other than
about 20 dead guys). do you? if so, how
do you know? and are you sure? and are
you willing to kill some innocents along
with them? how do you want to kill them?
with a knife? or something environmentally
hazardous?

i know some good people all over the world.
you won't kill any of them will you?
promise?

i need to know before i give you the go ahead.

-polvs