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To: Neocon who wrote (28264)	9/19/2001 9:51:36 AM
From: Poet	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

What is imposed secularity? Making an alternative version to the song? No one is suggesting that one's right to beseech God's comfort be squelched here. Come on. Read my post. EDIT: This is what I mean by your obfuscation. I have just done a yeoman's job in trying to get the thread refocused on issues and off the personal attacks and this is what you come up with? You're welcome.

To: Neocon who wrote (28264)	9/19/2001 10:10:48 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

People can beseech God whenever they want Neo. Since you can even beseech God silently from in your own head, I know of no power on Earth that can stop it. Think of how horrible a religious person would find a school speech or song that said over and over again "There is no God". Now try to imagine the shoe on the other foot. A small minority of people believe in no God. They actually believe in the absence of a God. Do they need to be indoctrinated in public places with a deity? And most especially, should their children be exposed to a religion, their parents absolutely reject? Imposed secularity is NOT the opposite of religion. Secularity is imposed in public places so the government seems neither to embrace nor reject religion. The government is neutral. I see no better thing to be hoped for than a neutral government that lets every man, woman and child follow their conscience- so long as they follow it in the appropriate places, when they do not bother other people who are compelled to be present (like school).

To: Neocon who wrote (28264)	9/19/2001 11:10:54 AM
From: Bill	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.