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To: Worswick who wrote (392)	9/19/2001 1:10:56 PM
From: Frederick Langford	Respond to of 281500

All the more reason to support Israel. They are the only Western type democracy in the Middle East. Fred

To: Worswick who wrote (392)	9/19/2001 1:47:16 PM
From: FaultLine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

"Aid" is fine. It's a tough thing for me to write down exact rules and, besides, is what you really want. Please understand, I'm just trying to create a good natured forum where we examine external issues (and not each other) in an interesting, polite manner. Rather than a set of rules, I'd rather lay out a few general principles and we work together to see where it takes us, perhaps doing occasional course corrections along the way. I consider the Palestinian-Israeli conflict to be an exceptionally difficult subject to discuss without a lot of heat being generated so I've suggested (several times now) that we sort turn our attention to many other important matters until we establish a protocol here that everyone is comfortable with. While trying to foster good natured cooperation, I find your Ref yours: "This is the place to post your thoughts, questions, and comments on American foreign policy issues." I thought aid was a foreign policy issue. Guess I was wrong. to be an unfortunate response but indeed, my header statement is my goal, and to this end I have explained certain defensive boundary conditions to try guide and and defend this forum from descending into neverending fingerpointing and grandstanding. So let's just keep moving on down the line and see what we can see. Thanks Clark, Ken/FaultLine

To: Worswick who wrote (392)	9/19/2001 2:28:53 PM
From: maceng2	Respond to of 281500

Quite upset by the Wall Street Journal article dateline Egypt. Bush is playing his hand well so far imho. Foreign Aid is a bargaining chip at his disposal.

To: Worswick who wrote (392)	9/19/2001 3:59:34 PM
From: Win Smith	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

It's fine to be upset, but think it through a little. Egypt is not a democracy. The government is more favorably disposed to the US than the general population, by all indications. A US policy reaction to a WSJ "man on the street" article ( which may be true, but is hardly a scientific opinion sample) is hardly going to make it easier for the Egyptian government to assist us. The general population of Egypt also has a lot more to lose from Bin Laden. Bin Laden's followers are not going to take over the US, but they could, conceivably, take over Egypt, or Saudi Arabia. The governments of those countries have a fine line to walk. They want to help, I'm sure, because the threat to them from Bin Laden and followers is the greatest of all. We shouldn't make it harder for them without good cause.