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To: pater tenebrarum who wrote (124399)	9/20/2001 7:10:43 PM
From: JRI	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

Heinz...actually, the quality of this coming conflict dovetails nice w/how I see the ending of the bear.... This thing (bear) is going to go for several years....albeit w/some nice rallies and lows....but it has to end in boredom....drawn out....in which only you, Patron, Luc and a couple others are still on the thread(s)-g Boredom is the only way that J3P will EVER get used to the idea that stocks don't always bounce, low priced stocks aren't a value, blah, blah.....the only way we get to boredom is time, as much as price. We're down 70% on the COMPX, and the number of folks who so quickly look for a bounce is mind-boggling still....what's another 10-20% from the top? I think years of snake-like behavior...winding up essentially in the same place...will be the only way to disillusion the masses enough to forget the 80/90s mantra like an old pair of 70s jeans.. All this, IMO, dovetails nicely to a conflict which looks like its going to drag out years...J3P won't really know if we're making progress in the "war" or not....and right when everyone's basically not thinking/talking about markets or Bin Laden anymore, or just taking for granted both will never change....BOOM.... both may be started getting significantly better... Our new world and our new bull!

To: pater tenebrarum who wrote (124399)	9/20/2001 8:21:22 PM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

Heinz, 1991 was the start of a renewed bull, further at the time shorting was not as popular as it is today. Few years before, I remember that I had an account at Fidelity and when I said I want to short stock, I was called in to the branch manager who explained me that this is not "American" further instead of 50% margin I was required to have 100%. Today the situation is quite different and therefore we will have those short wild spikes to the upside. Further many mistake the US economy with Japan's and it is not so. At least as of now the US UK and Germany are more or less together and fiscal and monetary policy .......... they will inflate us out of the hole. With a deflationary tendency, inflationary pressure will take quite a time to surface. As soon as scare will subside and the sell out will exhaust itself we will bounce ........ a military action will be the trigger, even if meaningless ........... the shorts will facilitate the rally not fundamentals. Fundamentals will surface later. BWDIK Haim