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To: Rarebird who wrote (77135)	9/22/2001 11:04:32 AM
From: Tommaso	Respond to of 116752

Without mentioning any stocks in particular, I was astonished to discover for myself, by simply looking (the CBOE quotes), that one can pick out the best stocks in the XAU index and buy LEAP calls on them out to 2004. The XAU never goes out any further than six months. It seems to me that this would be the safest (in terms of knowing exactly and measuring risk) and yet a highly leveraged way to benefit from a rise in gold prices.

To: Rarebird who wrote (77135)	9/22/2001 2:12:57 PM
From: ubetcha	Respond to of 116752

Severely Off Thread! "The U.S. does not have what it takes to win this War against Terrorism at the present time. To be sure, the U.S. has tremendous military assets. But the ground troops that are needed to enter the Underground Terrorist Networks throughout the Middle East and kill the leaders of these Networks are not properly trained IMO to accomplish the mission that the President has set forth. The Vietnamese were easily able to hold their own against all the U.S. ground troops. The Afghan Guerillas are even greater and more tenacious fighters than the Vietnamese." I really enjoy most of your contributions, but here you have offered a serious misconception! I served in Vietnam in 1969-1970. My unit was the unit that went into Cambodia. The Vietnamese could not and did not hold their own against us. (That is when we were allowed to do military things) We went after them in bunkers that were some 20 stories deep. Of course as we all know we never really went there!! Nixon told us so! That WAR was not fought by the military. It was fought by the politicans and the press. I am certainly not promoting that we go in and bomb them back into the stone age, and we have had some significant "bad" experiences in conducting insertions in the past, but I do feel that the military is capable of doing what is required. We need to take our time, be patient, and then make the moves that are necessary. War is not pretty, and certainly there will be innocents, and some of our own soldiers that die. If we keep the politicians and the PRESS out of it, than we will be able to get to the terrorists that are threatening the World's way of life. We certainly want to get only those that threaten us, and not the innocents. Bill Clinton had his opportunity to do something, but failed miserably!! Throwing a few cruise missles at them may make us "FEEL GOOD", but will not accomplish anything. This is WAR. War is not pretty. It is not clean. But if we do nothing, what happened on September 11 will happen again. Sorry for my venting, but you hit a raw nerve, Terry

To: Rarebird who wrote (77135)	9/22/2001 4:26:21 PM
From: JS	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 116752

Rarebird, I must disagree. The US has the one thing that it takes to defeat this enemy. It has the WILL to do so. Comparisons with Vietnam are not relevant here. Throw in the fact that they are the best equipped and certainly one of the best trained forces and I think that you will see quite a different outcome than Vietnam. Particularly if they attack again (which I fully expect). And I say this not as a jingoistic, media brainwashed citizen. In fact, I say this as a Canadian, who travels the world and is exposed to the "broader picture". This is a pivitol moment in US history, a turning point. The battle will be long and hard and in the midst of one of the most devastating financial collapses in recent memory. In fact we will probably emerge from this in a totally different world, the likes of which I am afraid to speculate about just yet but the signs of which are frightening.