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To: wanna_bmw who wrote (56061)	9/22/2001 7:48:23 PM
From: Dan3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Re: customers didn't want two server processor lines with overlapping gigahertz. Therefore, 2.0GHz Xeon is cancelled LOL! Of course that's the reason. About as likely as AMD sitting on boatloads of 2.5GHZ hammers but not selling them so their customers don't get "confused." Re: The Athlon MP beats the Xeon in dual processor mode, mostly due to a very high bandwidth front side bus design Xeon 1.7 has a higher FSB (400MHZ) than Athlon MP (266MHZ). But the overlong pipeline in Xeon's core is particularly bad at server and workstation applications. A lousy core is something Intel is stuck with for 4 more years. Re: Intel plans to release their Plumas DDR chipset and Hyperthreaded Prestonia in 3 months. Particularly in servers and workstations, there is a lag between chipset availability and system availability. I was probably being generous when I suggested AMD would have a clear field for only 6 months. Re: a 4x increase in frequency, like you said SOI was giving the G5? Good example, Motorola is going from 400MHZ to 1.6GHZ+ in their transition from .18 copper to .13 copper/SOI. Re: AMD doesn't have a 64-bit platform They aren't shipping it yet, but leaks about early samples are fairly widespread. The point is, the product they've elected to produce makes sense - unlike Intel's "runs any software, as long as it's from Mars" IA-64 strategy.

To: wanna_bmw who wrote (56061)	9/23/2001 9:57:50 AM
From: Charles Gryba	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

wanna_bmw, I run our real-time web reporting engine bench on a variety of machines and it seems the P4 is much slower than the Athlon ( 1.5Ghz P4 was 66% slower than the 1Ghz Athlon, 25% slower than the 1Ghz P3 ). I hope hyperthreading can do something about it. I 've told you before, the stupid benchmarks that are out there are useless. All those guys have start testing real-world software not pre-fabbed stuff. I think one guy did just that and was ostracized for doing it. Constantine