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To: elmatador who wrote (10121)	9/23/2001 1:37:28 AM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum	Respond to of 74559

Hi elmat, IT made me think: Either we bring everyone to an certain state of civilisation that precludes terrorism, acts of war and rage or we will be fighting forever. I think that has to follow or as Jay says we'll be 'rhyming' again soon. regards Kastel a cute and cuddly Canadian

To: elmatador who wrote (10121)	9/23/2001 5:33:33 AM
From: smolejv@gmx.net	Respond to of 74559

>>Either we bring everyone to an certain state of civilization that precludes terrorism, acts of war and rage or we will be fighting forever. << The statement sucks insomuch that it makes it either/or: either it's a generic Armaggedon (the ultimate battle etc) or its a clinical Armaggedon (9 to 5 and then rest and start again next morning). Translated either we clean up the mess right now or we'll be cleaning up for the rest of our lives. The answer is not one of thr two alternatives, it's both of them - and we all know the source of problems: It's called the human condition, its the mess the human race keeps creating on a continuous basis. "Who done it" is an issue but its not an issue: the mess - it just IS, to borrow the Jay's helping hand. dj

To: elmatador who wrote (10121)	9/23/2001 6:15:54 AM
From: TobagoJack	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

Hi Elmat, not forever, just until exhaustion. I believe in the concept of god, but I am not sure he is still with us, watching over us, and instead busy doing something else with his buddies. We do not always use what he has provided us in the best way possible, and I am concerned that what he has provided can easily be exhausted if we manage to get ourselves inadvertently into a infinite loop situation, on a global scale. I am, in short, hoping that we only tripped on an ancient abracadabra of scale 8, as opposed to 9. Message 16258768 In any case, we found an abracadabra, but it is of anti-matter, and no one can take any equity interest in it:0( Chugs, Jay