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To: wanna_bmw who wrote (56128)9/23/2001 9:19:17 PM
From: kapkan4uRead Replies (2) | Respond to of 275872
 
<You "just don't get it", Dan. Hammer is a joke, and it will only end up being AMD's next 32-bit desktop processor.>

Says who? A little punk, who wants a BMW?

Do you know who David Cutler is? Well, this guy helped AMD define the x86-64 ISA and then re-designed his 64-bit OS around it. He also said that there will be no support for Intel if they come-up with their own x86-64 ISA -- they will have to license it from AMD.

Kap



To: wanna_bmw who wrote (56128)9/23/2001 9:42:10 PM
From: Dan3Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 275872
 
Re: x86-64 requires OS support

Wrong again. X86-64 is architected to provide no-compromise performance for any of the millions of programs that make up the installed base of "standard" software. Companies that buy the X86-64 platform are up and running at full speed instantly - no muss, no fuss, no limitation to obscure beta software.

Further, those companies will now have a 64 bit platform that can be incrementally migrated to, to accommodate those few applications that are benefited by 64 bit address spaces.

The other thing is that 64-bit performance may not be all it's cracked up to be. So far the only difference seems to be the obvious 64-bit data processing, and the added registers. Other than that, there isn't much to offer above x86. There is nothing to suggest that they will get any more performance than 32-bit mode can offer.

AHHHH! The light begins to dawn for you! Intel is forcing any company that goes with its 64 bit solution to re-write or buy new not just the 2% of their software that benefits from 64 bit processing but also the 98% of software applications that don't.

AMD's solution requires re-writes only for software that benefits from it. And AMD's solution is much closer to the existing software base, making re-writes quick, inexpensive, and reliable relative to Intel's requirement for radical re-writes of every program.

And AMD plans to migrate its desktop processors to X86-64 fairly quickly, providing a large installed base for developers to target. Intel plans for its Incompatible Architecture-64 (IA-64) to be an expensive, rare processor for years.