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To: jim black who wrote (10222)9/24/2001 12:54:10 PM
From: Ilaine  Respond to of 74559
 
One thing I haven't seen mentioned is that there is an unprecedentedly bad drought in Afghanistan right now. Millenarian apocalyptic movements spring up, not when times are good, not when times are bad, but when times are unprecedentedly bad.

People who would never otherwise engage in political activity become infected with the meme due to desperation in times of crisis.

The USA, by far, gives the most humanitarian aid to Afghanistan. If we were to turn inward and away, thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands, would perish. Similarly, if we were to stop buying oil from Middle Eastern countries, their economies would be devastated.

I agree that we need to find acceptable substitutes for times of war and other crises, but I don't agree that we should turn our back on the region - I realize you are not advocating that, but I think that's the inevitable result of weaning ourselves from Middle Eastern oil.

I think that the fact that Americans use their automobiles for frivolities as well as necessities causes those with a Puritanical bent to tsk-tsk. For the most part, those blue-noses are just poking their blue noses into other people's business, IMO. They're cut from the same cloth as the Club of Rome and Malthus - - none of the dire predictions of Malthus and the Club of Rome have come true yet, but their pessimism is hardwired into their souls, I fear.



To: jim black who wrote (10222)9/24/2001 1:08:25 PM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
You might be interested in this op ed piece on Findlaw.com which advises us to avoid the mental error of assigning collective guilt - it's the same mental trap that the terrorists have fallen into.

If one believes in collective guilt, then obviously the people who were killed on September 11 got what they deserved, because they are Americans, and Americans have done terrible things.

Similarly, it's ok to kill Arabs and Middle Easterners without discrimination, because people from the same ethnic background did terrible things.

My own opinion is that there is no such thing as collective guilt.

writ.news.findlaw.com