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To: Mr. Whist who wrote (186580)	9/25/2001 6:06:47 PM
From: goldworldnet	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

So what do you think is the best way for conservatives to get rid of the NEA. That after all would do more good than anything for education. * * *

To: Mr. Whist who wrote (186580)	9/25/2001 6:13:22 PM
From: Dr. Voodoo	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Some interesting analysis of flappy's unsubstantiated rhetoric. 1). Both California and Michigan went to Gore in the election and they are hardly representative of all the people in America. 2) Well, I wish for being able to choose where my child is educated. And if I'm so dumb that I send them to a Taliban school for terrorists, I'll be the first one to ask for your help in understanding why they keep blowing up the family car. 3) If nobody is using the voucher schools,, WHY ARE YOU COMPLAINING? Doesn't this justify your point? They can't be taking money away from public schools if nobody is using them!!!!! What's wrong with giving it a try?--no need to answer that while your hands are in the cookie jar. Voodoo

To: Mr. Whist who wrote (186580)	9/25/2001 6:15:44 PM
From: J.B.C.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

>>(1) American people don't want vouchers.<< Hmm I'm American, I have school aged children, I want vouchers. Don't assume the results of votes on ballot proposals in two liberal states tells the story of what we want. Let's see, I think it was Wisconson that didn't vote it's electors for Reagan, that didn't mean that Americans didn't want him. Jim

To: Mr. Whist who wrote (186580)	9/25/2001 6:18:05 PM
From: Bill	Respond to of 769670

(2) Be careful of what you wish for. Technically, the Taliban itself could start "religious" schools and receive government funds to teach children how to hijack planes. Already do. Where've you been?

To: Mr. Whist who wrote (186580)	9/25/2001 6:19:12 PM
From: Little Joe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Flapjack: All of your points regarding schools are well taken. But what do you say to the parent in a school system like Baltimore (which is indicative of other cites) who have endured years of sub standard education and listened to this drivel that the system is improving, when in fact it deteriorates every day. The reason being that the problem is the system and the system is designed so that it can't change. If my child were in that situation, I would be interested in vouchers, big time. I have despaired of our public schools getting any better. Little joe

To: Mr. Whist who wrote (186580)	9/25/2001 9:42:33 PM
From: Gordon A. Langston	Respond to of 769670

Technically the Taleban would not be able to get funds for these schools and I think you know the reason why. NOW does. Secondly the voucher programs are only giving parents credit for part of the cost of education, sometimes less than 1/2 the amount of public education costs. Vouchers equal to the cost of education would be more attractive to private schools, which if they are religious are subsidized by the church. The mandate in most state constitutions for education is a problem but if there is enough will they will find a way to give people what they want and if that means people in CA and Michigan dont want vouchers, so be it. They will get to see how vouchers work out in other states before they take the plunge, maybe a good thing. I've been listening to how schools will be re-vitalized in LA and so far it looks like lowering standards is a leading strategy, as is 1/2 grades, as in 3rd and 1/2, etc. There was one elementary district in my area that posted some big gains with predominately ESL students. The scores were still low in comparison but they may have turned the corner.