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To: engineer who wrote (15258)9/27/2001 7:07:20 AM
From: Eric L  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 197217
 
engineer,

re: SAR, CDMA, Apples, GSM, Oranges, TDMA, and Kumquats

<< if a CDMA phone were in JUST CDMA, then the SAR is ALOT lower than the gsm modes. but the ones that are listed as higher SAR are almost always dual mode phones which have analog, which stays at 200 mW peak all the time and almost all SAR realted isues are in that mode. CDMA avg transmit power across the entire cell is 2 mW average. GSM is more like 100 mW average, and analog more like 200mW. Apples and oranges comparisons for technically not informed people isn;t a good way to prove a point. >>

Thank you. Would it be possible for you to take the time to reconcile your statement with the actual SAR ratings in these examples:

The Audiovox CDM-3300 (FCC ID CKLHGC-130E) has a Digital SAR (W/kg) of 0.7162 and an Analog SAR (W/kg) of 1.4514 ...

... but ...

The Audiovox CDM-8000 CDMA/AMPS Tri-Mode (FCC ID CKLHGT-1000E) has a Digital SAR (W/kg) of 1.19 and an Analog SAR (W/kg) of 0.794

... and ...

The Qualcomm QCP-1960 CDMA (FCC ID J9CQCP-1960) had a Whopping Digital SAR (W/kg) of 1.41 which gets pretty darned close to the 1.6 FCC ceiling

... by contrast ...

The Nokia 7160 TDMA/AMPS (FCC ID LJPNSW-5NX) has a Digital SAR (W/kg) of 0.61 and an Analog SAR (W/kg) of 1.33

The Nokia 8890 GSM-1900 (FCC ID LJPNSB-6NY) has a Digital SAR (W/kg) of 0.94

These numbers above are abstracted from DoMode and they are pulled at random.

There are several GSM models with measured SAR considerably lower than the GSM model above. A few here, each of which is < 1/3rd the FCC USA SAR max:

1.  Motorola V3682/StarTac 70              0.02
2. Motorola StarTac 130 0.10
3. Nokia 8810/8850 0.22
4 Ericsson GH628 0.26
5. Hagenuk Global 0.28
6. Motorola StarTac 130 (fixed antenna) 0.38
7. Sony CMDX-1000 0.41
8 Ericsson SH888 0.42
9 Nokia 2110/i 0.44
10 Mitsubishi Trium Aria 0.48


Thanks in advance.

In the interim, if you don't mind I will stick by the statements that "Not all CDMA phones are created equal in that respect and IF (again) a CDMA phone has a higher SAR rating than the GSM model and a TDMA model then (potentially) that CDMA phone is the most harmful."

I will also continue to practice safe mobile wireless telphony and spend as little time as possible with a handset pressed to my ear (CDMA or GSM) in case the IF really does have some significance.

Respectfully,

- Eric -



To: engineer who wrote (15258)9/27/2001 7:14:42 AM
From: Eric L  Respond to of 197217
 
re: SAR Publication Deadline (Europe)

>> SAR Deadline

Kirsti Rogne
WAP.com
September 24 2001

Is every minute you spend on your cell phone a step on the road to brain tumour? The EU has now set a deadline mandating phone manufacturers to publish radiation levels (SAR) together with the phone.

The SAR testing deadline set by the mobile phone manufacturers’ forum is fast approaching. All devices on the market are to be tested and marked for SAR-value.

Specific Absorption Rates

The EU’s standards committee has adopted an industry wide testing system this month to measure specific absorption rates. So, whether you think phone radiation is a potential health hazard or not, you will soon have SAR added to the list of phone specifications that you will have to navigate when choosing your next device.

Better Safe than Sorry

Experts differ on the dangers of mobile phone radiation. As of yet, no direct health risk of mobile phone radiation has been found. However, when UK government appointed scientific adviser Sir William Stuart warned of "subtle biological effects", it was decided that SAR value should be tested and displayed for each device on the market. Although some phones may be already displaying SAR by next month, March 31st is the final deadline.

What's the Point?

Specifying a SAR rate for each individual device is a difficult task and many are uncertain as to how valuable the information really is. SAR is the measurement of the absorption of radio wave energy in a given mass of body tissue. However, many circumstances interfere with this absorption and levels will vary according to area the phone is being used, the battery level of the phone, its proximity to a base station and a range of other external factors.

No Alternatives

Dr. Henry Lai, a research professor at the University of Washington, Seattle, said to the Financial Times that the measurement methods also differed between different laboratories and added that the time spent on the phone was another variable. However, he still supports SAR measurements in the absence of better alternatives. <<

- Eric -



To: engineer who wrote (15258)9/27/2001 11:13:56 AM
From: limtex  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 197217
 
eng and thread - help computer security..SI RT Quotes are no longer available. Someone recommended Island Book Viewer which is actually fine.

But I have noitced that when using Island Book viewer as well as receiving data I am also sending data about 1.5Mbts every hour or so. Well so far as I know I am not initiating any data sending yet my computer is clerly sending something.

Do you know of this cinditionwhen using Island Book viewer?

Is there a program that I can get that will show me what data I am sending?

Any other ideas? It just sort of makes me curious whne my computer sends data without me telling it to.

Best,

L