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To: Thomas M. who wrote (4835)	9/27/2001 3:46:09 PM
From: chalu2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

The quotes you posted from Ghandi were vilely racist, and I pointed out why. Had Ghandi said it would be cruel or unfair to "impose" undocumented Mexicans upon the Americans, or undocumented Arabs upon the French or Spanish, that would be denounced by everyone as disgustingly racist. Yet when he says it about Jews and Arabs, based on the religion and the ethnicity of the immigrant, it's okay. Not to mention Ghandi's professed puzzlement as to why Jews couldn't be happy living in the Germany of 1938, or the other lands (arab lands, in particular) in which they were third-class citizens. Unless Ghandi was ignorant or imbecilic (and he was neither), then his statements could only be viewed as racist. At the time he wrote them, it is the exact equivalent of a statement in 1916 blithely saying, "I don't see why Armenians can't be satisfied with their lives in the Ottoman empire, as equal Ottoman citizens?" Another double standard.

To: Thomas M. who wrote (4835)	9/27/2001 10:04:36 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 23908

Do you know why Judaism was castigated in Europe? Because it was considered to be a form of tribalism, as opposed to the "universal" characteristics of Christianity. This remark shows that you know as little about Christianity as Judaism. Christianity, like Islam, is a creedal religion, i.e. 'my way or the highway'. Medieval Europe had no place for tolerance of religous differences, whether Jews or heretics. Had it not been for St. Augustine, who set the precedent that Jews should be tolerated at all, the Jews in Europe would have ALL been forcibly converted, killed or expelled, instead of just suffering these things periodically. Even so, the Church castigated them as 'Christ killers' for centuries. It wasn't until Vatican II that Pope John Paul XXIII removed language cursing the 'perfidous Jews' from Church liturgy.