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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (1674)	9/28/2001 1:58:02 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

I have great hope that the outcome of our present conflict will be greater cooperation and better ties between the US and Russia, among many other countries. I also fear that the opposite will be true. The great lengths Bush and his cabinet are going to in order to promote international cooperation is unprecedented, in my lifetime. Many otherwise reasonable people in the US are getting a little whacky - I can't blame them under the circumstances, but I am glad that cooler heads are prevailing for now. Here is an excerpt from an email I received today from an old friend, ex-hippy, now Ph.D. in Economics - I remember when he had long hair and used to end his letters, "Don't forget to smash the state." >>Detroit has the largest concentration of Muslims in North America. We have already had several arrests of Muslims who work at our airport. And before the attacks a local pilot school had a couple of Arabs who had their instructor fly them over the Chrysler Building which is six miles from my home. I think the airport security measures are total and absolute crap. They will inconvenience us and waste our time, and not make us one bit safer. We should expel all foreign nationals of Muslim countries from our country. Kick theim out of our colleges and make them return to live under their dictatorships. They are our guests, and we just don't want them here anymore. Bye bye. Naturalized and US born citizens can, of course, stay. I can't believe our stupidity as a people. All Muslims are not terrorists, but all the terrorists involved September 11 were Muslims. Can we not use racial/religious/ethnic profiling in this case? I say we must, or many more Americans will die. Expelling foreign Muslims would do more to advance safety than body cavity searches at all the airports in the country.<< In response to my reply (not all Muslims are Arabs, not all Arabs are Muslims), he wrote: >>Okay. Deport all foreign Muslims AND all foreign Arabs. Then we can sort out who we want to allow back in. Tough if that means some people who are good guys get expelled. Then we can take a close look at recently naturalized citizens. Too bad that innocent Arabs and Muslims are inconvenienced. Let them go home and change their governments. I am not saying kill them, just kick the foreign ones out of this country. Some of the terrorists spent some time in Germany where foreigners need to regularly register. THEY OBEYED THE LAW. They obeyed our laws too, mostly. I am sure they could get off in court. DO NOT LET THEM GO TO COURT. DEPORT THEM. Until we do something like this, I am not flying.<<

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (1674)	9/28/2001 2:17:48 PM
From: ratan lal	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Hawk - we believe in democracy and the free enterprise system. Yet you are suggesting that we manipulate the soico-polito-economic behaviour in those countries for our benefit. We are forgetting the main thing that we in this country love, cherish and believe in. And that is let the free markets find their way. they may stumble from time to time yet they will find their way and emerge stronger. While we believe in these things for ourselves we are telling the rest of the world that we need to manipulate them. Unfortunately it hasnt worked and will never work. Furthermore the assistance that we provide, at least in terms of cia training, finance and arms eventually comes and harms us. Examples would be Noriega, Osama Bin laden, Shah of Iran, Saddam Hussein. And in the future it could be Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, pakistan and others. I for one would recommend that we let the represtative governments of the other nations take care of their people and any aid we provide, we must make sure it goes to the people and programs for which it is directed and not to line the pockets of officials who will do what we 'desire' while they rob the funds and use those funds to rob and suppress their people who go on to hate america for its 'help'.