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To: bela_ghoulashi who wrote (1771)9/29/2001 12:59:55 AM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
<There are pacifists I would "attack" in the sense of feeling no respect or empathy with them at all. There are equally pacifists I would hold in absolute respect.

I don't think blanket statements either way are appropriate. I'm not scum.
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BBM, Let's not play word games. I talked of physical assault. That is different from contempt, no respect, boycott, lack of empathy, verbal attack etc which others are free to do. I don't see why violent people shouldn't verbally attack pacifists with their own ideas. I count myself among the violent people because I would kill WTC attackers and supporters [and a lot more besides].

What it comes down to is free will and freedom. It matters not whether it's because somebody is scared or ignorant or lazy or daydreaming or anything else that they are pacifist. If somebody takes forceful [physical control or assault] action against somebody else who refuses to obey orders to attack somebody else, freedom has already gone and we are already up to 'I was just following orders' which was the defence for those running the gas chambers.

I would call you cowardly scum if you physically attacked a pacifist [even if they did have wet pants, ignorance, fear or whatever and you didn't approve of their motive]. I think it's a reasonable blanket statement.

If people volunteer to fight some enemy, that's their choice and I don't believe that choice should be forced onto others, whatever their motive for refusing to help [it's tough to force effective soldiering anyway].

Mqurice