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To: uu who wrote (21738)	9/29/2001 2:59:13 PM
From: AmericanVoter	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 24042

* OT * OT ******* Dear Addi, this thread is for JDSU investors... and I posted one long reply... which I think must be irritating to some... so, this is my last post on this issue here... if you want, let's go to one of the coffee rooms whereby anyone interested can read what we post... but not here... my respect to fellow investors outweigh my desire to make a point refuting arguments... Now, you are most welcome Addi... now, let's clear some basics... "promote" is not equal to "if one ever needs to" ... look promote in any dictionary, and you will attain a better understanding of the verb... and may be, just may be, you will be able to see my original point... the case of a husband beating his wife, is only referred to as the limit of punishment... and I started with clarifying that even the most severe of punishment is not what people think... however, you opted to jump to making erroneous statements... by intention or not, I really don't know... the Holy Quran provided the reward and the punishment for people for their acts in life in general and for their behavior with each other... there has to be a frame of reference... I am not going to imagine that there are no laws and that I will make my own... not everyone will be doing only good deeds like you so simplistically refer to John Lenon's song... it's only a song... there was killing since the creation of mankind... consequently, punishment has to be defined... one may never have to use it, or may elect not to use it... similarly, one has to know what is the maximum punishment available or allowed so that it is not exceeded... now as far as the Prophet's wives (pbuh)... I do not know of any of them that they were 13 mind you 9 years old...!!! his first wife was 10 years his senior... am I to assume that you did not know that...? or are there ulterior motives here...? now, about the man being the head of the household...Addi my friend, till today, the majority of the heads of the household are men ... and that is around the world... and America is no exemption... and about the wars in Islam... please go back and study history better... you will find that whenever a nation adopted Islam, there were some Jews and Christians who did not convert... case in point, did you know that there are Saudi Jews, Yemeni Jews, Kuwiati Christians, Palestinian Christians, Egyptian Jews and Christians, and as I am sure you know, Iranian Jews and Christians...? so, did those people hide in caves all that time or they simply opted not to convert ? and if they simply did not convert, how come they were not killed like you claim...? now about Islam allowing a man to marry up to four wives... I am going to assume that you really don't know and will go into detail... the verse in Quran that is immediately after that permission, demanded that one has to be just to all of them... and it added that one will never be able to be just (meaning to more than one wife).... so now you ask, then why the permission to marry more than one...? because of the nature of life at that time, there were a lot of orphans... the father killed in a war for example... and because the majority of women had no means to support themselves after the death of their husbands, the fate of the children and the mother was at best uncertain... so, Islam allowed men to marry more than one woman and consequently supporting the whole family.... you like to imagine, so imagine this... a man dies in a war leaving behind his family... let's say the smallest of family... his wife and just one child with no means to support themselves... what will the woman do to support herself and her child...? do the words begging and prostitution come to mind....? and that is why Islam allowed marriage to more than one woman... now, please don't tell me that some men still do that... I know that, and that is their choice and interpretation of the Quran... but the verse in Quran is very clear... one can marry more than one woman, but would have to be just to all... and that will never happen... in the case of marrying a widow... the rewards of supporting the new family outweigh all else... and by the way, being just means not only in material things, but in one feelings and emotions as well... and as far as to what is the minimum age for marriage in Islam, I truly don't know... I do not recall that I read it specified anywhere, which only implies that it comes from culture and tradition rather than religion... Dear Addi, I hate to think that someone who is capable of investing his money on his own falling prey to peer pressure in this tough times... wanting to distance himself from his religion (I am assuming that you are Muslim, but I could be mistaken)... in any case my friend, if you truly want to learn, then read more... I am not at all well versed in the teachings of Islam... but apparently I know few things here and there... and that is why I am suggesting that you read more in order to help not give any wrong answers... best regards amein alsuezi