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To: Thomas M. who wrote (19)	10/1/2001 1:02:55 AM
From: Neeka	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 2926

Aren't Muslim men saying to western men, you are not real men unless you are Muslim. Muslim men may have 4 wives. Muslim men may ignore their wives. Muslim women receive half the rights as Muslim men and Muslim women must submit to unnatural sex. In their eyes doesn't that make Muslim men more manly than their western counterparts? M

To: Thomas M. who wrote (19)	10/1/2001 2:19:44 AM
From: uu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 2926

> Perhaps in the culture or ethnic group which Islam was written for (and by) wife-beating/punishment was more common than in ours. Perhaps these issues were discussed in the Koran to put strict limits on the behavior. hmmm... interesting point. However this would imply that Islam was meant for a very focused audience with a common ethnic and cultural background. Thus making Islam not a universal ideaology to be followed by masses but indstead a cult like belief to be followed by a few with a common cultural background. As for the argument that women are treated much better in Islam than in Jewdism or Christianity... Now that is also an interesting notion. However to give you an analogy, if you can accept the notion of putting a positive spin on the Nazi SS during WWII and to argue that whatever they did, they did it for the best interest of German nationals, then I guess the positive spin on Islam treating women in a humanistic manner can also be accepted!