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To: slacker711 who wrote (1403)	10/1/2001 12:41:53 AM
From: Puck	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9255

Lol! Slacker, you once posted that if you'd known last year in July that Nokia's GPRS phones wouldn't be introduced in 1H2001 that you would have sold all your shares right then and there. Perhaps you were exaggerating your feelings for effect, but I believe I had a reasonable case for interpreting your words as having a certain bitterness about them. On another topic, what would guess will be the ceiling for GPRS phone data transmission rates.

To: slacker711 who wrote (1403)	10/1/2001 8:27:37 AM
From: 49thMIMOMander	Respond to of 9255

Slacker: "I am hoping that Nokia can begin pushing the market for handsets rather than having the market push them." The Customer is the King who pays the bills. Tell me who has been, and according to all present signs is, able to predict what all those kings want to pay for?? Did you ever think about what the "RF doctor" at Vodafone said a year or two ago?? (market driven or technology driven, not to forget patent driven) "I think that this has been my fundamental problem with Nokia all along." It would, obviously, be easier to just force feed the customer and pick their wallets behind their back. (for example using bundled products, get something free and pay through your nose in some other way) "The post by Eric Jhonsa in which Nokia indicates that many of the handsets next year will be Java enabled is a damn good sign. I dont particuarly believe that the current crop of Nokia's GPRS handsets are going to last very long. The lack of Java and color screens is going to lead these handsets to obselescense before next summer." Why is it so difficult to think that thought a little further, to the segmentation of the market plus both the upgrade, the new feature markets?? After that one could circle back to the issue of "commodities", "outsourcing" and selling chipsets to somebody assumed to be wating for them. Ilmarinen Obviously the GPRS code in Nokia phones will last very long, as the TI DSPs are fairly backward compatible, the ARM has some even better tricks. Btw, where did you forget one of the most important Nokia skills and insights, to have 70% commonality in large scale logistics?? (because it warps the space of thoughts too much, more than 2-3 factors to handle??)

To: slacker711 who wrote (1403)	10/1/2001 8:41:27 AM
From: 49thMIMOMander	Respond to of 9255

Slacker, what is you views on fumbled specifications and lack of testing and verification sites for interoperability?? As well as this, you seem to believe there will be many new incremental steps during the coming 1-2-3 years for GPRS(/EDGE), why would the (volume) Christmas market of this year be so important?? (2 million phones out of more than 100 million) Especially in terms of margin and revenue issues?? Ilmarinen