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To: Ilaine who wrote (10515)10/1/2001 12:26:10 PM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
Hi CB,
I thought you'd see it my way.
Message 16435487
I knew it would make me want us to get rid of the Taliban, and I did not want to feel that ??? I don't follow ?

BTW: re: Anthrax: Message 16437756

regards
Kastel
a cute and cuddly Canadian



To: Ilaine who wrote (10515)10/1/2001 2:00:14 PM
From: KyrosL  Respond to of 74559
 
It is not hard to get rid of the Taliban. They are essentially a creation of Pakistan. I think that Pakistan now agrees they should go, as do all the other surrounding countries and Russia. If Pakistan withdraws the logistical and other support it provides, all we need is a few hundred million dollars for bribes to key Taliban commanders. Russia is already providing to the Northern Alliance opposition all the heavy weapons it wants. But it will take a year or so to get the job done. I doubt that American troops are needed or even wanted.



To: Ilaine who wrote (10515)10/1/2001 7:37:33 PM
From: Mark Adams  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
It's unfortunate that you, and many others via CNN, had to see what you've described. It's not unlike what I read shortly after the attacks, descriptions of a life unbearable by western standards, where anarchy rules. Unsettling enough, reading that material, much less seeing with one's own eyes.

The cynic in me would suggest such material is not a fair representation of what life is really like there and is only presented to manipulate the masses. In my heart, I know this not to be true though. I've felt the Taliban must be removed from power since day one, without the political science background understand the ramifications of such a position.

Yes, there have been many occasions of inhumane acts ignored by the more developed world. Yes, the developed world bears an obligation to intercede, IMO. The people who live the life of anarchy day in day out are not in a position help themselves, or perhaps even know another way of life can exist. This is why Noblesse Oblige must rule, today and in the future, IMO.

Perhaps it's clearer now why I raised the questions about the legal, ethical and moral implications of a 'thought police' and suggested exile as a possible alternative. Sans women and children.

I find I avoid discussing these issues with others, as I think they deserve the right to enjoy their life without confronting the true horror of what may have taken place, what may take place. I understand that our leaders should be well aware of the situation and will hopefully find a resolution soon.



To: Ilaine who wrote (10515)10/1/2001 7:52:43 PM
From: JHP  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
Rwanda
read Elmore Lenord`s
Pagen Babies.


regards john



To: Ilaine who wrote (10515)10/2/2001 12:42:35 AM
From: smolejv@gmx.net  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
Rwanda horrors are 100% of the European (Belgium and France) doing. We get moist eyes over gorillas in the mist (they're so CUTE) and dont want to know anything about nuns, priests and other Jesus-loves-you sheep, who slaughtered their fellow humans. Who kept slaughtering ~...

This is why Hague tribunal is necessary. Even if they sell off after finishing with Balkans and Rwanda, go and live happily thereafter...Crimes against humanity keep happening.

AAre these CNN films not the material evidence against crimes against humanity happening under Taliban? Shall we just eliminate the perpetrators and forget the victims? These people should be tried for what they did. And not before (any) God, humanity is good enough for me.