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To: Seeker of Truth who wrote (2069)	10/1/2001 4:09:40 PM
From: Snowshoe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

The bloody Jordan river now flows through America salon.com This is the link you were referring to.

To: Seeker of Truth who wrote (2069)	10/1/2001 11:17:39 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Note this paragraph from the Salon piece: "Would America be putting Israel at risk by, in effect, forcing it to blink first? Not if America stood behind its words. If the Palestinian Authority in the interim period towards full statehood proved unable or unwilling to control radical rejectionists, America would stand behind Israel in its retaking of the occupied territory previously ceded to the Palestinians. In effect, everything would return to the previous, bloody status quo." Please. This is the same snakeoil that was used to sell Oslo in the first place -- if it doesn't work, we can take the concessions back. The moral of this story should be clear to everyone by now. Was Arafat willing to negotiate? no. Did Arafat control his radical rejectionists? no. Can Israel therefore take back the territories? no.

To: Seeker of Truth who wrote (2069)	10/2/2001 1:29:50 AM
From: tekboy	Respond to of 281500

actually, Malcolm, I don't disagree entirely with that piece, only partially. I myself have advocated something similar, but with the emphasis reversed. The chief problem is the Palestinians and the secondary problem is the Israelis, not (as your author has it) the opposite. And behind the Palestinian problem lies a broader Arab problem, because Arafat can't/won't do what is necessary to end the conflict without pressure, and diplomatic cover, from the so-called moderate Arab regimes. So--I'd put our weight on those regimes, and on the Pals, to prove the Israeli skeptics wrong, and commit to bringing Israel along in return. Probably wouldn't work, but worth a try, because (as your author says) the simmering of that conflict hampers efforts to respond to the threat from bin Laden... tb@yawnyawnyawn.com