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To: Mitch Blevins who wrote (32928)	10/2/2001 11:10:18 AM
From: Chris land	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Mitch, I can assure that chapter 53 is talking about Jesus and even though the authors in your link try to put their wicked spin on this in order to look good and rob Jesus it's just not true. Show me just one passage where God says the nation of Israel was to bear the sins FOR ANYONE! They couldn't even clean themselves from their own. Those in your link stated According to the NT, Jesus had large crowds of follower and was not shunned. That in itself is the biggest lie I've ever heard. It was Jesus who died for the sins of the world. It was Jesus who was rejected by the Jews and crucified. It was the name of Jesus that caused his prophets, disciples and followers to be cast into prison, tortured, robbed and defamed by the Jews. NOT SHUNNED? A Jew who confesses the name of Jesus is blacked out of a family heritage and considered dead. Jesus not shunned? Chris

To: Mitch Blevins who wrote (32928)	10/2/2001 9:04:43 PM
From: Stan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Mitch, I'm curious: do you adopt Gretchen's view because it agreed with the one you had already, or because it suits your own leaning? Back to 53, verse 6: "All we like sheep have gone astray . . " Your (and Gretchen's) claim is that the Gentile world is speaking. Why did Isaiah choose an animal that is the essence of kosher -- sheep -- to speak for the Gentiles? Gentiles (especially hostile) were anything but sheep (or clean) in the mind of the Jew. If he meant for the reader to understand that Gentiles are speaking, then would not "All we like goats (or swine) have gone astray. . ." have been a better and clearer choice? One more point and question, if I may: Your strong claim is that 52 leads into 53 without changing the reference. Care to use the same procedure with Isaiah 10 into 11? Plenty of similarities in them to 52-53. Stan