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Politics : America Under Siege: The End of Innocence -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: joseph krinsky who wrote (6001)	10/3/2001 10:34:12 AM
From: joseph krinsky	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 27666

I guess all the dead people feel a little better, now. foxnews.com

To: joseph krinsky who wrote (6001)	10/3/2001 1:29:06 PM
From: MSI	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 27666

Good find! Even if we just adopted Europe's energy efficiency measures we'd be independent of mideast oil. Methane is one more reason not to be held hostage to mideastern politics of death. We managed in '73 and we can manage now, whatever the actions taken over there. The other point to remember: if they don't sell the oil to us, who will they sell it to? There's not enough demand in the rest of the world to maintain their debt payments, let alone their lifestyle. Only propaganda tells us otherwise, not facts.

To: joseph krinsky who wrote (6001)	10/3/2001 11:01:12 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 27666

In this case, the oil companies would benefit, since they would naturally be the ones that one would think would do the mining or drilling or collection, however it needs to be done. They already have tremendous experience in mining, and drilling, and they have the money. You're certainly right about this. I note from one link on gas hydrates - marine.usgs.gov - that: Recent mapping conducted by the USGS off North Carolina and South Carolina shows large accumulations of methane hydrates. A pair of relatively small areas, each about the size of the State of Rhode Island, shows intense concentrations of gas hydrates. USGS scientists estimate that these areas contain more than 1,300 trillion cubic feet of methane gas, an amount representing more than 70 times the 1989 gas consumption of the United States. Some of the gas was formed by bacteria in the sediments, but some may be derived from deep strata of the Carolina Trough. The Carolina Trough is a significant offshore oil and gas frontier area where no wells have been drilled. It is a very large basin, about the size of the State of South Carolina, that has accumulated a great thickness of sediment, perhaps more than 13 kilometers. Salt diapirs, reefs, and faults, in addition to hydrate gas, may provide greater potential for conventional oil and gas traps than is present in other east coast basins. The oil industry can't even drill for conventional oil and gas, which it knows a lot about handling, there. Also I read: Methane, a "greenhouse" gas, is 10 times more effective than carbon dioxide in causing climate warming. Yikes! That's not good. The environmental obstacles to hydrates will be even greater than for conventional oil and gas. It will happen some day, I suspect. But we're not ready yet, I think.