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To: Skeeter Bug who wrote (132512)	10/4/2001 4:17:03 PM
From: craig crawford	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 164684

>> we don't have to do this and i think everyone realizes it << not yet, but it's obvious that's where things are headed. the easiest way to erode your freedoms is little by little at a time. >> if we had no choice then we'd have a serious issue. we do have a choice. nobody on this board, to my knowledge, has supported the UN having 100% say on our military options yt harsh words were traded. << like i said, it starts out with the UN telling us they can come inspect our prisons. then the UN says it can seize and arrest our soldiers and try them for war crimes. read this one more time: Another milestone was crossed last year when UN Secretary General Kofi Annan asserted that only the Security Council can authorize the international use of force; and a nation's sovereignty no longer protects it from intervention, if the UN determines that human rights are being violated Message 16441524 >> how can we have full freedom if we aren't free to give up some sovereignty? ha ha! << what kind of an argument is that? i never said we couldn't surrender our sovereignty--i am simply saying it is foolish to do so. just like i called mr buschman a traitor, and all of a sudden the insinuation is i'm a fascist. not so. a fascist seeks (usually by force or terror) to stifle opposing viewpoints. i didn't stifle buschman one iota. i condemned his views, but i in no way prevented him from expressing those views. you see the difference? mr buchanan is accused by many on this thread of manipulating language. perhpas his accusers better reexamine their own use of language. >> however, sticking up the statue of liberty's middle finger to the rest of the world as the only alternative seems a bit... limiting. there may be other solutions worth pursuing. << that is where free traitors...err traders, like to demagogue and obfuscate. they like to imply that a united states which retains it's freedom of independence is somehow hunkering down or isolating itself from the rest of the world. the reason the pressure is so great to globalize or cede sovereignty to some sort of global authority is because america is the greatest nation on earth and has everything to lose. as an example, by limiting our veto power or negotiating ability giving the united states only 1 vote out of 135 in WTO foreign countries have everything to gain.