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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lane3 who wrote (31011)	10/5/2001 7:01:02 PM
From: Poet	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Hi Karen, I just read your post to CH. Thanks. I think this is a very difficult time to be a pacifist. I've never been one, but having come of age during the Viet Nam war, when vets were spat upon when they came home, it took me years to come around to feeling that not every military action the US could take would be unjust and immoral. The events of September 11th changed my life in so many ways, one of them being that I find myself agreeing with the talk and actions of a president for whom I didn't vote and with whom I disagree on many things. I think that here on SI, many conservatives mistakenly view liberals as pacifists and hence somehow traitorous. In my view, pacificism is disconnected from politics. It's philosophical view which I admire and which is exceedingly difficult to adhere to during times like these. Those who are true pacifists can be true patriots as well, I believe. I'll read the article you posted to me a bit later and will get back to you. Bill wants to log on.

To: Lane3 who wrote (31011)	10/5/2001 7:05:09 PM
From: The Philosopher	Respond to of 82486

The issue of educating foreign students has always been a complex one. OTOH, we think that education is the way to lead the world out of poverty and ignorance, and that we make friends throughout the world by educating its next generation of leaders and professionals in Western values. OTOH, in many cases we are educating people whose basic commitment is to use that education to damage us, either economically or politically. It was particularly disturbing that we trained several of the pilots who flew the planes on the 11th. (I realize that wasn't a university system, but education is education.) I don't know what the answer is, or even if there is one, but I think we do need to keep a closer watch on how the enormous value of the best educational system in the world is being used -- and misused.