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To: Tom Clarke who wrote (6090)	10/6/2001 4:20:51 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

At least I'm not the only "nut case" who's suspected the "organized crime" lead... Indeed, the Ukrainian missile theory is ludicrous --or highly alarming for US Air Force's rocket scientists since it'd demonstrate Ukraine's superior anti-aircraft technology... Here's an interesting scrap: At the time of the crash, Ukraine's military had been holding the largest training exercise in the nation's 10-year history, a land, sea and air assault which involved firing missiles at airborne drones off the Black Sea's Crimean Peninsula. Ukrainian officials said Friday that they had exhaustively analyzed launch data from 23 missile firings around the time of the crash and had concluded that there was no chance that they had accidentally downed the jet. Russian military officials, who lent ships, servicemen and advice to the exercise, stood solidly with the Ukrainians and demanded that the Pentagon hand over any evidence to the contrary. Vladimir Kornukov, commander of the Russian Air Force, said Friday on Russian television that he had been with the Ukrainian defense minister and had "watched the picture visually and through the radar control means." "I saw all the targets in flight, how they worked," he said. "They worked quite well." He insisted that he could not accept that an accidental missile firing had downed the plane, calling it "impossible, taking into account the technical conditions and the conditions of the launches and what I saw." The Russian defense minister, Sergei Ivanov, derided what he called the "so-called version that the plane could have been shot down by the Ukrainians." He added: "Nevertheless, early this morning upon receiving the president's sanction, I sent an urgent inquiry to the American side, to the Pentagon, in which we asked to documentarily confirm or refute this, or to provide any data which could cast light upon this accident." In Washington on Thursday, one intelligence officer said that the evidence suggested the missile might have been an SA-12, a long-range land-based missile fired from tubes mounted atop a tank-like vehicle. That official declined to discuss the nature of the evidence. But the United States vigilantly monitors missile launches around the world, and has long kept a hawk's eye on the Black Sea from Cold War observation posts in Turkey. [snip] iht.com _______________ As I said, since Russian soldiers were taking part in the Ukrainian wargame, they could easily conceal a commando squad equipped with dummy missiles in the area... It's not that difficult to loose off a dummy at an airplane --I mean, your dummy missile will likely buzz the targeted airplane say, by 100 meters... That's enough to get the two spots coinciding on any radar screen. At that point, all you need to do is to switch on the radio pulse that'll explode both the dummy and the bomb inside the aircraft --remember: there's no "radio obstacle" since it all happens above the sea... a child's play indeed. Again, the passenger list holds the key.... Gus.

To: Tom Clarke who wrote (6090)	10/6/2001 5:05:47 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (7) \| Respond to of 23908

THIS IS AMERICA... For Muslims, Benevolence Is Prevailing Over Backlash By Caryle Murphy Washington Post Staff Writer Saturday, October 6, 2001 Shortly after last month's terrorist attacks, two bricks ferried handwritten notes with crude, racist remarks through the front window of the Old Town Islamic Bookstore in Alexandria. Store manager Hazim Barakat was angry and frazzled. The Palestinian immigrant also was unprepared for what happened next. About 15 bouquets of flowers and more than 50 cards -- some with money -- arrived at his store. People from as far away as Tennessee and Nebraska called with condolences. A local businessman, who would not give Barakat his name, paid for a new window. Christian ministers and a rabbi dropped by to express their support. "The people in the neighborhood were so nice you don't believe," said Barakat, 44, who runs the store for the American Muslim Foundation. "This is like another family I have. This is my big family. I want to thank everybody." Terrorism and bigotry, it seems, can have unintended consequences. [snip] washingtonpost.com You know, I still recall the scene where Prez Bush sat between several Muslim community leaders and delivered a "get-together" speech, laying his hand on a copy of the Koran... Well, from a European perspective, that's quite amazing for I can't remember any of Europe's statesmen doing the same. Take France for instance, although Islam is the country's #2 religion (after Catholicism), fat chance you'll ever see Prez Chirac on TV with his right hand on the Koran! As expected, most Euro-media have over-hyped the violent reprisals against Arab-Americans that occurred in the wake of the terrorist attacks. However, considering the pervasive, chronic violence across the US fabric and the widespread availability of firearms --not to mention the exceptional, apocalyptic nature of 911, the dozen incidents of Arab-bashing that happened are really negligible...