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To: epsteinbd who wrote (6496)	10/11/2001 6:27:50 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 23908

And now they are giving us death tolls from accidents.. Don't they know that people die in the military every year from similiar accidents? I watch a guy STUPIDLY get between two 5-ton trucks, one of which he was assisting in backing up. The driver mistepped on the accelerator and scrunched him between the two bumpers... literally cutting him in two. I didn't stick around (there were plenty of folks to assist), but I heard the result was something I didn't want to look at... And now we see that folks STILL haven't learned that you don't get between two trucks. And you don't sleep under tanks no matter how bad it's raining out there... And you can roll a Hummer and you will die from it just like in a regular automobile... Someday they'll learn.... But in the mean time, I hope they don't start doing a tally of accidental deaths.. ***************************************** Airman's Death is Campaign's First dailynews.yahoo.com MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE, Fla. (AP) - An Air Force sergeant was killed in a heavy equipment accident in the Arabian Peninsula, becoming the first announced American death in Operation Enduring Freedom, military officials said Thursday. Master Sgt. Evander Earl Andrews, who died Wednesday, was assigned to the 366th Civil Engineer Squadron at Mountain Home Air Force Base in Idaho. He was originally from Solon, Maine, the base said. Maj. Eldon Hardwick from the Army National Guard headquarters in Augusta, Maine, said the accident happened in Aludeid, Qatar, and involved a forklift. Qatar is on a peninsula jutting off Saudi Arabia in the Persian Gulf. Lt. Col. Dave Lapan, a defense department spokesman at MacDill, said Andrews was at a ``forward deployed location'' supporting the campaign when the incident happened. A woman who answered the telephone Thursday morning at the Andrews home in Mountain Home said Andrews' wife, Judy, was not saying anything but would be meeting with her minister and might have something to say later. The woman did not identify herself. Andrews was the son of Odber and Mary Andrews in Solon, in western Maine. A man who answered the phone at the residence late Thursday morning did not want to speak to reporters. Three Air Force officers and a deputy sheriff arrived on the family's doorstep at 1:30 a.m. to deliver the news, said Dassie Andrews Jackson of East Madison, who is Odber Andrews' sister and Evander Andrews' aunt. Evander Andrews, who was raised in Solon, had four young children ages 21/2 to 10, Jackson said Thursday. He enlisted in the Air Force after high school and had served 18 years, she said. While officials at the Maine Guard were familiar with the incident because it involved someone from their state, they said Andrews was not a Guardsman but a regular, active-duty airman. In addition to Andrews, a soldier was seriously injured Wednesday in Turkey after being trapped between two trucks, military officials said. Officials did not disclose the soldier's name, the extent of his injuries or the exact location of the accident. He was airlifted to the military hospital in Germany. ``U.S. medical personnel on the scene performed initial lifesaving care,'' after which the soldier was taken to a U.S. base in Incirlik, Turkey, said Maj. Brad Lowell, a U.S. Central Command spokesman at MacDill. The soldier was in serious but stable condition Thursday at the U.S. military's Landstuhl Regional Medical Center, officials said.

To: epsteinbd who wrote (6496)	10/12/2001 2:04:11 PM
From: Elmer Flugum	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

Mr. Epstein, All I stated was that Jerusalem was not founded by King David. It was founded by the Jebusites before King David. You should have known this already. I also stated, perhaps you missed it, that Masada was a myth. BTW, I care as much about American casualties as I do any other casualties. This may be the difference between myself and other flag-waving Americans. It is as if only Americans bleed and suffer. If you need more infromation on the Jebusites, there are many on any websearch engine...have a good time.