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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Greg or e who wrote (32164)10/12/2001 3:33:59 PM
From: Solon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
No, it was objectively evil. You know it, but you can't say it, without blatantly contradicting yourself.

Greg, don't be slow: Subjectively or objectively. It was an opinion. I believe it was a religious act to honor God. This is what we are told. It makes me physically sick to think of what this supernatural belief has done. But you must remember, Greg: The people who committed this act of (you-"bad" killing; them--"good" killing) were ABSOLUTISTS--just like yourself. They had CERTAINTY...AND...they were following the will of God.

Muhammed killed innocent people on a continuous basis. The messengers of Yahweh did the same. How does this enlighten or advance the morality of human beings?



To: Greg or e who wrote (32164)10/12/2001 4:15:09 PM
From: epicure  Respond to of 82486
 
It was not objectively evil.
How could it be objectively evil?
How could we even KNOW if it were, being mired in the subjectivity of our human condition?



To: Greg or e who wrote (32164)10/12/2001 8:59:03 PM
From: thames_sider  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 82486
 
>>"Killing 6000 people was a great good for some; it was an horrific evil for others."

>No, it was objectively evil.


Greg, you must be wilfully misunderstanding.
To the terrorists, they were doing the will of Allah. What they did was - absolutely - good.
Some sympathisers say what they did was good.
Some others say it was a necessar evil - killing innocents, for a greater good.
We see it as evil. Absolutely, and unequivocally.
And the holy word from either side can be used both to condemn, and to justify.

If, 1000 years from now, the earth is ruled and populated by Islamic fundamentalists, what will the 'objective' view be then? Who will say them nay?

Or if Islam is by then extinct, what then?

I don't hear any 'objective' voice, ex caelo or de profundis, on either side. Did I miss that bit on CNN?