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To: Mitch Blevins who wrote (33010)	10/14/2001 8:09:20 PM
From: IN_GOD_I_TRUST	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Firstly, what about: 15 And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel." This is the first messianic promise. That Satan would strike Messiah's heel, but Messiah would crush Satan's head. Crushing someones head would have only one effect, right? So without going into deep translation, we find out that God would save us from Satan (evil, sin). We can not save ourselves. I know from this, you'll be saying, is this direct enough to ascertain the full messianic promise? Honestly, probably not to most people. But this was the start of God telling us that he will save us, not Adam or Eve, or any person save themselves. Also, somehow Abraham knew the messianic promise at his time. So I am sure it was obtainable. He had it! Also, if you ask for it from God, with an open mind and heart, you'll get it, always! God promises that! Secondly, you are getting confused with the ways of salvation and works. One should do good works if they are a messianic believer. However, works are not required for salvation. True belief in Messiah accomplishes your salvation. (Do you need some verses?) Thats why you are having difficulty understanding Paul, and for that matter, much of the bible, if you can not distinguish this. Lastly, you need to read more about Christ's death and the concept of crucifixian. Additionally, you need to do your homework on the events that lead up to his getting nailed up on the cross. (And so far, I am just referencing the human side here of suffering.) And what you mostly don't understand is about him bearing ALL the world's sin in his death. Believe me, this was the worst death. No one beared the sins of all of us at their death. That is more excruciating than anything in history.... God Bless, IGIT