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To: Neocon who wrote (32999)	10/15/2001 11:51:29 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

But you can't pin anything on Agnostics. heeheehee

To: Neocon who wrote (32999)	10/15/2001 12:00:41 PM
From: Poet	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Hi Neo, I'm glad you read the Sullivan article and appreciate your response. A question, though: As for the matter of abortion or gay marriage, these are considered to be matters of morality and not doctrine, per se. IMO, neither abortion nor gay marriage are mere ideas, they are actions that live within the context of the law. I don't understand your point about them not being considered to be matters of doctrine.

To: Neocon who wrote (32999)	10/15/2001 2:45:37 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Most fundamentalists are content to separate themselves from the dominant society, or perhaps to evangelize. Over time, I have been getting an education about religion on this thread. I started out thinking that religion was a purely personal matter but I have come to understand that some religious need to do their thing in a group. I find that strange and I can't relate to it, but I accept that it is the case for many. When I read the Sullivan article, I noticed the following: <<This is the voice of fundamentalism. Faith cannot exist alone in a single person. Indeed, faith needs others for it to survive—and the more complete the culture of faith, the wider it is, and the more total its infiltration of the world, the better.>> That's quite a bit different from "and perhaps to evangelize." I find disconcerting anything more groupish that weekly services at various places of worship or the occasional missionary at the front door. I'd appreciate your thoughts. Karen