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To: RocketMan who wrote (129441)	10/15/2001 6:37:29 PM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 436258

Rocketman, I am not familiar with Nietzsche just started reading, it is obvious he is very controversial, including this ideas of the "super man" etc. The reason that I decided now, was because the events regarding OBL and the transience in the Islamic world of the so called "purity" of suicide ...... by inflicting maximum possible harm on innocent people ....... rewarded by "infinite life in paradise ......... with unlimited sex with 72 virgins" for example as explained on this site....Religious devotion, sexual desire drive youths to 'martyrdom' worldnetdaily.com and this site .....The inspiring story of a martyr in Kashmir. albalagh.net (to sleep with 72 virgins, personally I find quite punishing. First dealing with virgins, and then being transformed into a sex machine forced to perform at least 4 to 5 times a day ...... just f&ck, without any feelings, <GGG>....... ..... I can tell you my preferences are for a monogamous life :) ..... ........ no she is not watching over my shoulder <GGGG>) Was trying to understand the dynamics of the " Such was the bravery of our hero Al-Baraa' Ibn Malik who was prepared to sacrifice himself in the path of Allah and for the sake of spreading the religion of Islam and wiping off its enemies* and the meaning of hoping to attain his aim and be granted martyrdom by Allah........... "O Allah, grant us their backs and make me meet Your Prophet today"....... first "Allah and then paradise" (http://www.islam.org.au/articles/17/albaraa.htm) from .....The Warrior of Al-Ansar A story about the Islamic war against the Persians ..... who on my assumption were believers in Zarathustra at the time. In any case regardless of Nietzsche inclination my inquiry was to understand the connection between Thus Spake Zarathustra and the religion which sprung up in what is now Iran / Afghanistan and if any of the desire for suicide by inflicting maximum possible harm on innocent people is rooted in religion attributed to Zarathrusta. To date it seems to me that the idea promoted by the Wahhabi sect in Saudi Arabia and the concept of "MARTYR" or suicide in the name of GOD to kill other innocent people is specific to certain Islamic believers and originated in Arabia. As to the other point you make I think I responded as far as I know in a previous posts, and I do not remember writing that Nietzsche >>> would be consistent with Jewish traditions <<<, ........ but indicated that QUMRAN SCROLL "THE WAR OF THE SONS OF LIGHT AND THE SONS OF DARKNESS." SOURCE: JEWISH ASCETIC SECT ESSENES. The Jewish sect had anticipated an early end to the world, with the Battle of Armageddon taking place within the first century, C.E. The sect had shown strong Zoroastrian influences. BTW at that time in their eyes the Romans were the SONS OF DARKNESS