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To: HG who wrote (5515)10/16/2001 11:50:08 AM
From: Original Mad Dog  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
I'll repeat the 3 words I first said on September 11 and have repeated many times since:

"This is different."

The Prince was attempting to rub our faces in it, and frankly if Rudy had told him to never come back to NYC again I would have been ok with it. It is time for people to recognize that the problem, at its core, is the implicit acceptance of tactics like what happened on Sept. 11.

I think our policy should be....every time you target us, we increase support for Israel by 10 percent. And we come after you besides. If the art of doing business is to make a deal after we are murdered, then the deal is not worth making, and the enemies are in exactly the right relationship to us.

What if, after Hitler sank one of our ships with a U Boat, some Swiss diplomat stood up in front of the victims and said, "Ah, but of course America should do something about the Jewish problem"??? Should we tell the Swiss diplomat privately and diplomatically that we really, really don't think that's appropriate?

I am well aware of Gandhi's saying, and it does not apply here. This is not an eye for an eye. It is having the courage to say that something is morally abhorrent, even if saying it might ruffle a few feathers. A courage, I might add, that Gandhi had more than almost anybody else.



To: HG who wrote (5515)10/16/2001 12:48:17 PM
From: Ilaine  Respond to of 281500
 
>>you Americans will never understand the art of doing business in Asia...and you don't need more enemies than you already have<<

Maybe you should learn something by what Guiliani did. His reaction was exactly correct, from an American point of view, IMO. It could not have been better.

I would rather never do business with any person in Asia ever again if that is what it takes.

You do not come to the site of a massacre and blame the victims. If "America is to blame" for the attack, most of the people who were killed were Americans, so they are being blamed for causing their own deaths. That twisted logic is simply unacceptable - I have stronger words but will leave it at that.



To: HG who wrote (5515)10/16/2001 7:42:16 PM
From: JustTradeEm  Respond to of 281500
 
Ahhhh...you Americans will never understand the art of doing business in Asia

The prince was doing business in America; he understands America very well ...

The message that Guiliani sent the prince is that there is no room for moral ambiguity in this picture and it was also a message our children need to hear.

Yes, there is right and wrong .... something the prince and many in the ME apparently don't understand.

Peace .... JB