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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: TimF who wrote (33622)	10/17/2001 10:37:54 AM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

University of censorship's fall semester Debra Saunders townhall.com Its an article about UC-Berkeley trying to pressure the student newspaper into running a front-page apology for a Darrin Bell political cartoon it ran Sept. 18. "The cartoon showed two turbaned terrorists ready to "meet Allah and be fed grapes," but finding themselves instead burning in hell. Bill co-author Sajid Khan believes the cartoon was "racist." (I disagree. The cartoon clearly lampoons a vicious fanatical mindset that equates slaughtering innocents with martyrdom and eternal reward.) The newspaper could avoid a rent increase, the bill explained, if it adopted "voluntary diversity training." (Doublespeak lives in the misuse of the words "voluntary" -- when the bill says submit or pay -- and "diversity" -- when only popular opinions will be tolerated.) Also, the paper could "rectify its complete insensitivity to the needs of its campus and its values" with "a printed apology, and a new record of dedication to truth in editorial and news content."

To: TimF who wrote (33622)	10/17/2001 11:10:59 AM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

At the time we did not have enough evidence to convict Osama. I don't know what evidence we had and what we didn't have, and what evidence we might have developed if we had arrested him and started the process of getting seach warrants, etc. Do you, really? If not, I think you need to temper your statement. My recollection of the time is that we had as much evidence against him as we had, say, against the PamAm bombers who were convicted. Certainly enough to try him. And if we had committed significant resources to investigating him, who knows what we would have come up with? I'll agree that Clinton wasn't entirely to blame. It's possible, though I think unlikely, that if we had smashed, or at least seriously disrupted, the Al Quaeda network back then, that they could still have pulled off Sept. 11. But Clinton's decision certainly was a significant factor. And a very sad reflection on his priorities and his commitment to defending the US.