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To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (54223)	10/17/2001 1:49:10 PM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 70976

OT war thoughts: I think i agree. Are folks outside of NYC/DC as edgy as we are here? Market is certainly feeling it today. My customers tell me that tech spending will certainly resume sooner rather than later with planning for 2002 starting as early as next month. One guy told me we will need new systems next year, if we aren't all dead by then. So what we need is a quick outcome of this first stage in Afghanistan and containment of the domestic threat. If that happens the market will skip over bad news of the next quarter or two. Mike@maudlin.com

To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (54223)	10/18/2001 12:03:01 PM
From: Pete Young	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 70976

OT war thoughts: Read "Oil, God and Gold : The Story of Aramco and the Saudi Kings" about the genesis of the Saudi state, and you will find that the Wahabbi warriors play a pivotal role in seating Saud in the 1920's. They seem to have departed company ideolotically with the policies of the ruling class in a significant way. Bin Ladin represents one wing of what we call the "fundementalists", a movement that I suspect has lots of support in the Saudi kingdom from powerful people. (Why, I don't know.) I think its very possible that we will find ourselves getting thrown out of SA, or embroiled in a situation like Britain vs Ireland if we insist on staying. Time frame? Probably over the next couple of years...especially true if the price of oil goes down and stays down. This movement seems to be related to the high birthrate of previous years and frusturated young adults not able to hook into the largess of the Western lifestyle as they enter their working years.

To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (54223)	10/18/2001 3:16:54 PM
From: Brian Sullivan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 70976

IMO, we are going to find that the only way to stop terrorism, is to make all governments responsible for what happens in their territory. Any government that aids the terrorists, we make war on. Any government that cannot stop terrorists from operating on their soil, must allow us to come in and do the job for them. If they refuse, then we make war on them also. Going directly after the terrorists, trying to bypass the governments in those countries, that isn't going to work. Currently the evidence is pointing to Saudi Arabia as a country that aids the terrorist and funds the terrorists. Most of the WTC terrorist were Saudi citizens. Saudi Arabia has not cooperated in anyway to help the US track down the terroist. Requests from the US to trace the 18 terrorist that piloted the planes was declined by Saudi Arabia. When does the war on Saudi Arabia begin?