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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: briskit who wrote (34577)	10/20/2001 4:12:21 PM
From: Poet	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

Hi Mike, I hope you don't mind my jumping in here and don't take it as jumping on you. I'm probably somewhere in between you and X on this and I do feel that men who do not identify themselves as liberals or feminists can often be extremely sensitive to, and mindful of, women. I have a question about this, however: while not necessarily agreeing to all the agenda items in the "feminist" smorgasbord. We've been discussing feminism here off and on for months and no one has been able to present a list of mutually-agreeable tenets. Not even the feminist women here. What are you alluding to when you talk about a "feminist smorgasbord"?

To: briskit who wrote (34577)	10/20/2001 5:03:10 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

If it is invisible to me, I cannot note it. If it is unspoken, I cannot note it. I don't think I've even seen much interest in women at all (remember, I was talking of the women of Afghanistan). It wasn't a case of not agreeing with what was posted, it was a question of lack of any posts on the matter (by the segment of society that I mentioned). I am quite sure that patriarchal and protective men feel they have GREAT concern for women. It just doesn't happen to be concern for women as autonomous people.