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To: Mac Con Ulaidh who wrote (34602)	10/20/2001 7:03:50 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

I wonder what radical feminism is now. I looked about a bit on the internet- and I'm not sure even the radical feminists agree on what they agree on (and they don't even seem to agree on who can be a radical feminist).

To: Mac Con Ulaidh who wrote (34602)	10/20/2001 7:04:17 PM
From: briskit	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

Sounds like you are referring in part to something I said. If not, I said something like that anyway. I have not seen or heard much from radical feminism lately at all, so I only remember the statements, and tone, of a few years ago. Radical feminism spans the spectrum. Some are said to advance the position that all marital sex is rape, because it is part of the male dominated system, or something along those lines. Others say it might be prostitution, because some women in effect trade sexual favors for the benefits of the relationship. These would be positions I disagree with. Are these representative of radical feminism? I do not know. A friend just graduated from Wellesley. She is clear about the nature of radical feminism there, as being very negative about men and other things. I do not find them useful. I guess people just do not like the idea of radical right now. We are all hunkered down until this blows over.

To: Mac Con Ulaidh who wrote (34602)	10/20/2001 7:28:33 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 82486

They only thing I see people here agreeing on is that they don't what "radical feminism" is, but there is agreement to not liking it. I don't recall your participating in the thread's most recent discussion of feminism. I think you were on one of your sabbaticals. My recollection was that pretty much the whole thread, male and female, agreed they were equity feminists but had a distaste for gender feminism. I thought the men made a pretty good showing. "I don't know what Republicans stand for or are interested in, but I'm pretty sure I don't like them". I recall the GOP fighting equity feminism tooth and nail over the years, including the women of the GOP. My sense is that the official party has caught up with the times, for the most part, although they have some troglodyte members, and that the gender feminists are Democrats. Karen