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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: thames_sider who wrote (34820)	10/22/2001 4:29:01 PM
From: Michael M	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Lovely indeed. I take it you think the idea of coded messages in videos is silly, along with any desire of the government to, at least, study the tapes before broadcast. Please forgive me if I misunderstood you. I remind you (if you knew in the first place) that our POWs in Vietnam were able to communicate much valuable information to our government in brief broadcast appearances. T-O-R-T-U-R-E comes to mind.

To: thames_sider who wrote (34820)	10/22/2001 5:37:51 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

So when he says "Death to all Americans", we need to carefully decode each syllable to see if there's a terrorist message in there somewhere. As I said "I'm not sure how the news organization is supposed to be able to tell that such a hidden message exists." I was just commenting that asking them to make the attempt was not censorship. As for the rest of the article. I don't think our actions in removing Iraq from Kuwait, while trying to minimize civilian casualties and in the end even stopping so as to minimize casualties among enemy soldiers is in any way morally equivalent to the the attacks on the WTC which was an aggressive attack targeted against civilians. I am not claiming that you are asserting any such moral equivalence but it seems that Mark Steel might be. Yes there was cheering for our success in war, but the fact that not every American is totally motivated by humanitarian impulses at all times doesn't make us an evil country. One a decision is made to go to war, its pretty certain that some people will die. And its better that they are enemy soldiers dying then our soldiers. Then there was Chile and Lebanon and so on, thousands of innocent people with innocent families... When did we kill thousands of innocent people in Chile or Lebanon? Tim